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    Re: Updated Empire Rumours

    Quote Originally Posted by ihavetoomuchminis View Post
    And if the griffon comes at 200 points as now.......it will be useless, despite being a great "for fun" option. It'll be great to have some bonuses for Amber magic, as it is one of the most used lores in my army :P. And don't forget that Amber lore contains a spell that can't be casted if the wizard is mounted.
    I'm assuming it will be nearer the cost of the griffon in the SoM book, somewhere in the region of 150, that would be in line with the O&G wyvern which is really the only comparable monster from an 8E book

    In any case I don't see much point in buying a combat monster as a mount for a character you desperately want to keep out of combat (of course if the VHS is still in the magic item list things will be different), I've seen the high elf dragon Mage fielded a few times and it has the me problem, no one really seems to know what to do with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiney Norman View Post
    In any case I don't see much point in buying a combat monster as a mount for a character you desperately want to keep out of combat (of course if the VHS is still in the magic item list things will be different), I've seen the high elf dragon Mage fielded a few times and it has the me problem, no one really seems to know what to do with it
    Assuming the Griffon is 150 pts, and the elector count gets cheaper (look how much cheaper a basic orc warboss got), then I can definitely see an elector count on griffon being a useful option at 225ish points + equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decker_cky View Post
    Assuming the Griffon is 150 pts, and the elector count gets cheaper (look how much cheaper a basic orc warboss got), then I can definitely see an elector count on griffon being a useful option at 225ish points + equipment.
    I hope so, I've been proposing a Griffon mounted General for my Empire for a while now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    It has occured that they will need to repackage the existing free company into boxes of 10 .... so that would, whilst not a new kit ... be 'one of the new boxes' with some kind of bowmen.

    But that would just be a new box ... not a new free company.
    Free Company are currently at 4 models per sprue, so repackage into boxes of 10 is not possible without a redesign. As with Knightly Orders, re-cut without complete redesign does not seem likely.
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    A shame that they won't make new state troopers. I love almost everything about the Empire but the troopers are horrible abominations.

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    So... don´t we have usually rumours when the book is being printed? Is that a bad sign?

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    The forge world troops are wonderful but too expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimikoPT View Post
    So... don´t we have usually rumours when the book is being printed? Is that a bad sign?
    Seeing as books are printed months in advance (I would guess 3-6) that's both untrue and not relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiney Norman View Post
    I'm assuming it will be nearer the cost of the griffon in the SoM book, somewhere in the region of 150, that would be in line with the O&G wyvern which is really the only comparable monster from an 8E book

    In any case I don't see much point in buying a combat monster as a mount for a character you desperately want to keep out of combat (of course if the VHS is still in the magic item list things will be different), I've seen the high elf dragon Mage fielded a few times and it has the me problem, no one really seems to know what to do with it
    It might be an option for wizard lords instead of wizards from a particular school of magic, amber might just be the one they find appropriate (God knows why). Also, the wizard on griffon might be good for double duty, kill a unit of archers here, cast a spell there, who knows.

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    Re: Updated Empire Rumours

    *Voice of Mayor Quimby from the Simpsons*


    Oh Baby!


    Still I'm most excited about the cover of the new Empire book + all the artwork and layout of it. All the little details around the edges of pages etc.


    Thanks for the update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decker_cky View Post
    Assuming the Griffon is 150 pts, and the elector count gets cheaper (look how much cheaper a basic orc warboss got), then I can definitely see an elector count on griffon being a useful option at 225ish points + equipment.
    Absolutely, I'm all in favour of a general on a griffon, it's a good option anyway, but not worth the current 300pts pre-magic items, my comments were specifically aimed at the possibility of a wizard on a griffon.
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    The halflings will probably be finecast rerelease.

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    Hope the new knights rumor is true. I have never liked the original plastic ones.
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    Thanks for the rumor update Harry!

    If an amber wizard comes with the griffin I wonder if a Jade and Grey wizard will come with the altar thing. The Griffin at possibly 49.50 US would also make the Empire the first faction with 3 large plastic kits (Griffin/Altar/SteamTank).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jullevi View Post
    Free Company are currently at 4 models per sprue, so repackage into boxes of 10 is not possible without a redesign. As with Knightly Orders, re-cut without complete redesign does not seem likely.
    Oh? You can tell how long it is since I built any. Maybe not then.
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    Re: Updated Empire Rumours

    Thanks Harry for the new rumour round-up, i am quite looking forward to what GW pull out of their hat with this release...

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    Hey something that makes the Karl Franz Box more likely

    Tyranids got the Swarmlord in the new Tyrant box

    just a thought

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    Re: Updated Empire Rumours

    Thanks Harry for the effort, can't wait to see what's comming, but so far not much picking my interest! That can all change whenever pictures start to be released though, mostly intrigued by new plastic priest models (stand-alone or from the altar)! The current metal (or are they finecasted?) are horrible, thanks Sigmar for the 6th ed. metal one
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    Re: Updated Empire Rumours

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Rumours of a plastic War Altar (and something new?)

    There are rumours of a dual plastic kit which makes a War Altar and something else. (Harry, hastings, ghost21, malladin.ben)
    It is rumoured that the War Altar can be customised to make Sigmar, Ulric or Morr. (ghost21)
    There is a rumour that it makes a War Altar and a “College of Magic wizardlordmobile”. (NatTreehouse, Harry)
    A war altar combo kit with a wizardy casting platform thing which had lots of globes almost like a celestial model. (Darnock via birdy)

    Not much more to add to this from the previous thread.
    Oh, except a nice little rumour from Kyte that the War Alter may be pushed into combat by Flagellants rather than pulled by horses.
    I have heard the iconic statue of the griffon remains unchanged. (Not sure if this pours water on the customise for different religions rumour. I feel like I would have heard 'you can have a griffon like the last one or a big wolf' Didn't hear that. )

    Rumours of new Warrior priests:

    There were lots of rumours of new warrior priests early on.
    I think that any new priests will be done for the plastic War Altar.
    (Rather than an additional kit or individual sculpts)

    Rumours of the War Wagon:

    There is a rumour the War Wagon is back in the book with a combat, shooty or mixed option.(ghost21)

    I have heard about a model from more than one person of a War Wagon which look like the warmaster wagon with a bunch of handgunners in the back. Now it could be this is just a scratch built conversion or it could be a new kit?
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    Re: Updated Empire Rumours

    If you ignore anything from ghost21 this rumor list is looking really reasonable

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