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    Heh... Finally someone put this up. Dont click unless you have seen the ending. Just shows how.. 'varied' the end of the series is...


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    They are only the same if you don't pay attention, which isn't to say a bit more variation wouldn't be appreciated. I just don't see the logical jump from the few legitimate problems to 'epic fail nerdrage bioware iz evil rargh' that many seem to be going in for. But whatever, the game has sold three million copies since the endings were leaked and this hissy fit began.

    My biggest issue is multiplayer. I love it, which is really unusual for me, but after being deprived of some truly prodigious quantities of exp and credits in some recent matches, where I laid waste to entire waves with my Vanguard, due to disconnects I really think something needs to be done.
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    My biggest issue is multiplayer. I love it, which is really unusual for me, but after being deprived of some truly prodigious quantities of exp and credits in some recent matches, where I laid waste to entire waves with my Vanguard, due to disconnects I really think something needs to be done.
    On the PC, at least, there are apparently also serious hacking issues, with people modifying their files so that they would receive greatly increased amounts of experience and credits. These hacks then also apply to everyone else playing in that match, and EA has been banning people who spend the credits that they received from those hacks - even if the spender in question isn't the one responsible for the hack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldargal View Post
    They are only the same if you don't pay attention, which isn't to say a bit more variation wouldn't be appreciated. I just don't see the logical jump from the few legitimate problems to 'epic fail nerdrage bioware iz evil rargh' that many seem to be going in for. But whatever, the game has sold three million copies since the endings were leaked and this hissy fit began.

    My biggest issue is multiplayer. I love it, which is really unusual for me, but after being deprived of some truly prodigious quantities of exp and credits in some recent matches, where I laid waste to entire waves with my Vanguard, due to disconnects I really think something needs to be done.
    Fortunately I seem to have avoided any hacking problems, though I have been disconnected a few times. I’ve also found a list of the rarity levels of all the equipment and characters (link), unfortunately both the krogen classes are rare. Looks like I’ve got a lot of grinding ahead of me!

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    From Gotthammer on BoLS:
    Supposedly they've been giving Japan and China a few days before they say anything. One rumour is they held back the 'true' ending to avoid leaks before the game was released in all regions, and there is a supposed leak DLC called "The Truth" - the leak is reasonably reliable as it's from the same guy who leaked Shadow Broker and the announced multiplayer DLC. But I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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    I've not had any issues with hacking, either, thankfully. People say Krogan are rare, unlocked krogan soldier in my first spectre pack I bought (with bioware points, sigh). It took me an age to unlock my Asari Vanguard. I love her so, though. Beating Phantoms, Banshees and Brutes in melee is very satisfying.

    Edit: Oh, my origin name is drusillalouise, usually to eb found playing a Vanguard. I usually do really well up to wave 10 whereupon it goes to my head and I try to take on a two brutes a banshee and some ravagers simultaneously. Pulled it off once or twice. Mostly I die.
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    Re: Mass Effect 3 Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by eldargal View Post
    They are only the same if you don't pay attention, which isn't to say a bit more variation wouldn't be appreciated. I just don't see the logical jump from the few legitimate problems to 'epic fail nerdrage bioware iz evil rargh' that many seem to be going in for. But whatever, the game has sold three million copies since the endings were leaked and this hissy fit began.

    My biggest issue is multiplayer. I love it, which is really unusual for me, but after being deprived of some truly prodigious quantities of exp and credits in some recent matches, where I laid waste to entire waves with my Vanguard, due to disconnects I really think something needs to be done.
    I'll probably get warned for this, but sod it: piss right off mate. People who disagree with your are not throwing a "hissy fit". The craptacular ME3 endings don't exist in a vacuum, they come on the heels of the issues a lot of people had with ME2, the disastrous DA2, and the issues a lot of people had with SWTOR. Furthermore, they come on the heels of Bioware lying outright to customers regarding how the ME3 ending would work, and a lot of people feel bloody cheated.

    Get off your high horse.

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    So Biowares notoriously whinging fanbase aren't anything new, not very convincing. Not everyone is whining, either. I've seen some decent, well thought out critiques of the ME3 endings. However they are few and far between, most of it has been just another, long whining hissy fit about how Bioware failed to deliver everything everyone could ever want in an RPG. In my opinion is less Biowares failure and more a problem with peoples expectations.

    I accept that there are issues with the ending, there are plotholes and we were promised more than three endings. HOWEVER I do not make the jump from these minor failured to saying the endings were 'craptacular', on the contrary I think they were intelligent, thought provoking and extremely apt given the settings themes. Not to mention emotionally engaging. You may disagree, and that is fine.

    I actually liked DA2 as well. The recycled environments, graphics and combat system were all dissapointing but the story was brilliant. I mean we had a hero who for all her efforts was still at the mercy of events far beyond her control, in contrast to the much more standard hero on an epic journey story of DAO (which was still stuperb and admittedly better implemented).

    But I really just don't give a damn, to be honest. I love ME3, everyone I know loves it, multiplayer was a fantastic success, the game is critically acclaimed and selling millions. Let people whine, I'm going to keep having fun instead.

    At least I would, if clipping problems and random disconnects weren't really messing up MP for the last couple of hours. Got disconnected from my first silver tier game right after charging into a group of geth, very embaressing.
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    Our very own Meredith and Orsino. Stop it, the pair of you.

    Must yet another discussion thread about Mass Effect be turned into a battleground? Yodhrin, you're overreacting; you cannot deny that there is at least a vocal minority of 'fans' who, not just dislike, hate the ending on very shaky grounds and therefore state that it's bad. They don't care for another opinion, either, yet your response to eldargal essentially pointing this out is, what? Piss off? You're being just as bad as you claim eldargal is.

    Just stop it.
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    Well quite, I don't want to turn this into another battle thread and won't be engaging in it any further. I would like to say I have not said that anyone on Warseer is simply whining or having a hissy fit, I was referring to the general 'controversy' in online articles, blogs and Bioware Social Network. I'd I've offended anyone I apologise, I've never denied there are issues with the endings and I don't expect everyone to like them. It is just that I personally don't see the jump from dissatisfaction and dislike to 'fail'.

    So on a more positive note, who else thinks Bioware should make an animated film about Blasto and Bubin?

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    Re: Mass Effect 3 Discussion Thread

    In an attempt to drag this thread back on topic, what’s everyone’s current character setup in multiplier?

    At the moment I’m mainly using by human soldier who carries a M-96 Mattock as his main weapon (I just love its accuracy and power), and either a Disciple or a M-3 Predator as backup. Most of the time I tend to opt for the Predator, I don’t like the Disciple’s short range and slow rate of fire. But I’m interested to hear what other people like to use.
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    I really like this post regarding the endings, I found spreading over the BSN.

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    I have an Asari Vanguard (Tiara L'Soni) who uses only the M-4 Shuriken V. I tried using a shotgun but I just couldn't get the hang of it. My soldier (Drusilla) also uses the mattock, I agree with your assessment of it.
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    In an attempt to drag this thread back on topic, what’s everyone’s current character setup in multiplier?

    At the moment I’m mainly using by human soldier who carries a M-96 Mattock as his main weapon (I just love its accuracy and power), and either a Disciple or a M-3 Predator as backup. Most of the time I tend to opt for the Predator, I don’t like the Disciple’s short range and slow rate of fire. But I’m interested to hear what other people like to use.
    I don't entirely agree with that BSN post (I've sunk nearly 1000 hours into the ME series myself, since 2007), but at least he put forward a well thought out, sensible argument instead of just nerdraging.
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    I don't entirely agree with that BSN post (I've sunk nearly 1000 hours into the ME series myself, since 2007), but at least he put forward a well thought out, sensible argument instead of just nerdraging.
    You should go on youtube and find der untergang's take on it. Pretty funny even though I haven't played the game yet myself. But I mean, really with what, 4 equal endings we're basically back at the end of the BG series which had 3 different endings. Funny how far game design and production has come since then in some regards, but not in others.
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    I have an Asari Vanguard (Tiara L'Soni) who uses only the M-4 Shuriken V. I tried using a shotgun but I just couldn't get the hang of it. My soldier (Drusilla) also uses the mattock, I agree with your assessment of it.
    I take it that she relies on her powers to do most of the damage, since in my experience most SMGs are more likely to annoy people rather than hurt them!

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    Yep, 200% power recharge speed means I can spam biotic charge like nobodies business, the SMG is for finishing them off quickly between heavy melee strikes and the 2second or thereabouts CD on biotic charge. I usually top the damage and kill rankings, otherwise I'm second usually too much more experienced MPers. Then sometimes I really bomb out and do terribly, heh.

    Edit: I'm thinking I might try an assault rifle or something. At Silver levels the SMG is fine in things up to the level of marauders or cerberus engineers but it really struggles to do meaningful damage to ravagers and things like that. It's led to my getting boxed in and overwhelmed a few times. Also those Banshees are much more quick off the mark with the grabby-stabby. Still don't like shotguns.
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    I'm on my first play-through, just getting involved with a certain geth dreadnought. I'm loving the game so far.

    Gameplay: I don't miss the planet scanning and resource-gathering business, but I do kind of miss the hacking and bypass minigames. I like that you can use some turret guns and ride around in one of those mechs, I hope there's more of that because it was seriously badass. I also so far like some of the enemy AI, but it's not nearly as sophisticated as it was made out to be. I also loathe how the game essentially forces you to do multiplayer in order to boost your effective readiness, I think that's a load of crap - primarily because I have no interest whatsoever in the multiplayer components, nor do I have a smartphone or tablet. It strikes me as one of the big EA-isms that's gnawing away at Bioware.

    Story: I'm loving it so far. I've read about the endings, so I'm a little nervous about how that's going to go, but the crap that's happened so far has been really good. The character's personalities seem to have more depth in this game, and it's nice to see some start to die off - despite how heart-wrenching it can be. I absolutely love how those are handled in this game, sure they're a little melodramatic, but that's the name of the game with a space opera like ME. And it doesn't keep me from having an emotional reaction to those deaths, moreso than in any game I can recall ever playing. I'm sick of the theme of Bioware's latest games, "gather as many factions as you can to face the Big Bad", but it actually seems appropriate in this game.

    Overall: It's taking up way too much of my time, but it's a ton of fun and I can't wait to see how it unfolds...

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    Since I don't know how to do the spoiler links I'll just say this. The chances of the ending in the game being an ACTUAL ending to me is quite improbable. Is it possible? Yes, BUT, the thing is you don't travel around recruiting members in ME2, earning their trust gaining their abilities, etc. etc. And have it all affect the ending in so many different ways, to do the same thing over again in ME3 (with the War assets etc.) to make it all mean nothing. A company doesn't do an ending like ME2 and then poop the bed in ME3 when the general principles were the same.

    Pay attention to the ending. There are hints etc that leads you to believe this isn't over. IMO its a company which has done so well with a franchise that the mighty EA games has finally stepped in and told them to try and squeeze more money out of the player base. Don't be surprised to see an epilogue DLC. In fact if they do, it'll be the best game I've ever played. If they don't, wow, then this was the worst blunder since... well... ever in my gaming career. And it may sound stupid but it will make it the worst game I've ever played. To me, story is everything. I'll play a crappy, repetitive mechanic game as long as the story and characters are enthralling. (see Assassins Creed 1 ) Its like going to see Lord of the Rings: Return of the King and instead of the ending they gave it, Gollum steals the ring and disappears. THE END. And no future movie is released. I'd have been PISSED hahahaha.
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    Keep in mind another monumental game that had a crappy ending which players freaked about. Fallout 3. DLC (or was it an expansion pack?) was then done to fix it and carry on the story. Fingers crossed that ME3 will fall into this category.
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    Fixing a game buy making people pay money after the fact for the 'real' ending isn't fixing the game. If there is more to the story, if the Indoctrination Theory is the truth of it, then they have released and charged us all how much money for an unfinished product? If the Indoctrination Theory is wrong, then the end of ME3 was a travesty of horrible fail, if IT is right, then Bioware has sold us a game with no ending only so they can charge us more money so they can make use feel better. No thank you. I'll spend that money on something that deserves it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lothlanathorian View Post
    Fixing a game buy making people pay money after the fact for the 'real' ending isn't fixing the game. If there is more to the story, if the Indoctrination Theory is the truth of it, then they have released and charged us all how much money for an unfinished product? If the Indoctrination Theory is wrong, then the end of ME3 was a travesty of horrible fail, if IT is right, then Bioware has sold us a game with no ending only so they can charge us more money so they can make use feel better. No thank you. I'll spend that money on something that deserves it.
    A pretty good summary as to why I don't like Bioware as of late.

    Anyway, it seems future DLC will indeed adress the aftermath of the game: http://kotaku.com/5894186/mass-effec...brings-closure
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