Weapons in Close Combat

[Deffgob]

No. In general, you pay the cost for grenades, additional ammunition, missiles, etc, and you have an infinite supply of the thngs.

Some items are for a single one, but those will explicitly tell you in the description.

thanks for celaring that up for me

Re: Weapons in Close Combat

Additionally, as a failed Ammo roll represents not just running out of ammunition but also possibly the weapon's mechanism failing or circuitry burning out a failed Ammo roll for one type of ammunition still renders the weapon useless for the duration of the game regardless of if you have other ammunition available or not.

i hadnt thought of that, it makes sense really.

[simonr1978]

Is that ORB or a later revision/clarification of the rule?

Assuming that this referred to my previous post, it's in the online .pdf rulebook, page 21 Ammo Rolls:

Ammo rolls represent faults in the internal
mechanisms of weapons or ammunition as well as
the possibility of simply running out of ammo.

And:

If you roll less than
the number indicated the weapon has malfunctioned
and is useless for the rest of the game

[aglondier]

thanks simon

[Andy p]

Im thinking of starting up a Scavvy gang and I wonder if anyone could expand upon these rules. The rule book is at our club so I havn't clarified this, but I read somewhere that Scavvies get a club for free? Also someone mentioned on a different forum that a good standard build for the normal scavvies themselves was Autogun + Knife + club.

Is that any good? Or do the rules make such a combination obsolete?

[simonr1978]

From a quick read through of the rules Scavvies do indeed get a free club, although the way I read it this is instead of the free Knife that normal gangers get rather than in addition to it. I'd probably say the knife is going to be a bit redundant here, I'd probably spend the 5 credits elsewhere myself.

[Andy p]

From a quick read through of the rules Scavvies do indeed get a free club, although the way I read it this is instead of the free Knife that normal gangers get rather than in addition to it. I'd probably say the knife is going to be a bit redundant here, I'd probably spend the 5 credits elsewhere myself.

Oh that's a shame. However I did also toy with the idea of just having about 6-7 guys with guns, only one scalie, ( although this might not be advisable from what ive read), a leader with Autogun/Auto pistol and sword and then have a ton of guys as cannon fodder with 2 hand weapons, given the cheapness of scavvies. This would go along well with the free zombies they can get as well, however having never played a game this might be a poor choice in terms of scavvy leadership problems. Not to mention money.

At least id have lots of people to eat!

[aglondier]

I've found the club/knife with basic weapon is a brilliant combo, and really cheap for juves/ratskins/scavvies.

[simonr1978]

Juves can't take Basic Weapons.

[Andy p]

Juves can't take Basic Weapons.

But yay for scavvies right?

[simonr1978]

Scavvies can take weapons from their "Ranged Weapons" list which does include Autoguns so as you put it, yay for Scavvies .

[Askil the Undecided]

Why bother taking a second CC weapon when you have a basic weapon?

[Dark Aly]

Why bother taking a second CC weapon when you have a basic weapon?

If the first one's a free knife/club then I see the point. My shotgunners usually end up having a club, sword or flail sooner or later.

[simonr1978]

Because different HtH weapons bring different advantages any one of which might be desirable and since almost all fighters get a free knife any HtH weapon you buy them will by default be a second one? Just because a fighter has a Basic weapon doesn't stop them from gaining some benefit from the HtH combat weapons, true it is a bit redundant when you could probably get a greater benefit by giving it to a fighter whose armament is geared more towards Close Combat but it's good sometimes to see a bit of variety in equipment.

It would be better IMO to allow a fighter to upgrade their free Knife at gang creation to a different HtH combat weapon, but unless you're going to houserule this it isn't an option as it stands.