Thoughts on Betrayer's plotline

[Sandlemad]

Not entirely. It wasn't crossed wires between me and Chris; it was more an editorial error. Here's the skinny, cut and pasted from B&C:

Aren't chinese whispers great.

I'm quite surprised by how much BL stuff there is on Kharn. Fingers crossed on some sort of nod to the kill-counter slipping its way into Betrayer.

[welshrat]

Looks great

[jarineva]

Amazon (and cover) has date as 2.April, 2013

[Animal310]

It's like Scions of the Storm. There are parts in that which don't match up to The First Heretic perfectly, but at the same time, it hardly matters. They both cover the same ground, with slightly different points of view. One lacks the same details because it was written first, though. Nothing game-changing. It's two people writing about the same moment of lore.

I thought you handled the whole Scions of the Storm thing very well indeed. I thought they matched up well enough to not even notice any minor differences.

[Tymell]

I'm thinking Lorgar's eventual conversion of Angron to the worship of Khorne being the primary main one, the title 'Betrayer' showing how he even betrays his brothers that he's 'allied' with.

I doubt it would come out quite like that. The Lorgar we saw in Aurelian wasn't some arch-villain manipulator, and he still seemed to care for his brothers. In Butcher's Nails he seemed more shocked than delighted at warning of Angron becoming Khorne's chosen.

While he might lead his brother there, I think it would be more a case of enlightening him than betraying him. That's my feeling anyway.

[Valrak]

Will the Blood Angels be involved? (Fear to Tread ending).

[boogle]

Will the Blood Angels be involved? (Fear to Tread ending).

I think Fear to Tread is set after Betrayer, as it seems calm when Guilliman and Sanguinius meet up

[Deff Mekz]

I think Fear to Tread is set after Betrayer, as it seems calm when Guilliman and Sanguinius meet up

The events of Signus Prime happen around about the same time as Calth IIRC. Betrayer starts at the aftermaft of Istvaan III (AD-B posted the Prologue on his blog if anyone wants a source for that ) to whenever. Considering Butcher's Nails is also set around the time of The Battle of Calth, and Betrayer is mostly about the events after that audio-drama, I'd say actually it is highly likely that Blood Angels will appear in the book.

[Tymell]

The events of Signus Prime happen around about the same time as Calth IIRC.

I would think Signus Prime is a bit before that myself: Calth is supposed to take place 1 year after Isstvan, and Signus happens around the same time as Isstvan. Fear to Tread certainly ends after Know No Fear, but I think it starts a good while before. After all, Know No Fear itself covers a very short span of time, only a matter of days (well, if you don't count the epilogue). Betrayer is after Butcher's Nails, which is at the same time as or shortly before Know No Fear.

So I'd think it goes: Fear to Tread (start) - Butcher's Nails - Know No Fear - Fear to Tread (end) - Betrayer.

[Apfeljunge]

I got the impression they lost a large amount of time during the warp storm at the end. It easily could be two years into the heresy as well when they arrived at Ultramar.

[Tymell]

I got the impression they lost a large amount of time during the warp storm at the end. It easily could be two years into the heresy as well when they arrived at Ultramar.

Definitely, plus the time needed to repair their fleet and so on.