1500 pt greenskins

[xisor83]

Fantasy Army: BoC

So i have a tourny coming up in just under a month at 1500 pts with only restriction no special characters. I have been playing around with various lists and am leaning towards this

Orc shaman lvl 4, opal amulet, dispel scroll, ironcurse
39 orc big uns AHW, tsd (banner of discipline)

50 night goblin soearmen, nets, std
1 fanatic

Night goblin BSB, shield, LA
20 night goblin bowmen, std

25 Orcs, shields, std

Pump wagon
Pump wagon
Pump wagon
Pump wagon

Rock lobba

5 Wolf riders, shields

We play each of the 6 scenarios once so i am trying to give myself a chance in all of them and although the pump wagons arent amazing i love them and people generally dont know how to handle them. plus at 45pts each they allow me to place them all down and get a deployment advantage. The only pts i am still unsure on in here is the 25 orcs with shields but i am struggling to find anything better to spend the pts on. I played around with 15 black orcs but they didnt work and only have these other models im not using so any advice would be great:

30 black orcs
boar chariot
5 boar boys
10 spider riders
20 orcs AHW
orc on wyvern

Now i was going to buy a mangler squig but at a recent tournament there was an issue because someone split the model and used it as two manglers and they frowned on it a little so im not going to bother. I can buy some other bits for the army if anyone has anything they think i could really use but any help would be greatly appreciated

[Glemigobles]

Orc shaman lvl 4, opal amulet, dispel scroll, ironcurse
39 orc big uns AHW, tsd (banner of discipline) - semi-deathstar? Right now they are 6++ with no AS - rather feeble protection.. and they cost a lot of pts. Why not giving the shaman LSH? That would give them some survivability. Reduce S ocrs to 30 and run them 6x5 - you'll still have 24 A btw - Sorcs big'uns can carry a magic banner? Not so sure about that...

Night goblin BSB, shield, LA
20 night goblin bowmen, std - 20? And there is a BSB in there? One good WM shot and they're off towards the nearest table edge. And you need the BSB I'd give him 4+, 4++ and put him with NG, adding sticka' gobbos to the spear mob (no extra points). Maybe even give them all bows (never tried it before but da rest of da boyz mentioned it)

Pump wagons ftw!

There should be something fast, or at least with better M than 4 - maybe try fielding 2x10 wolf boyz? Or common trolls as they cost aprox. the same as 2 blocks of naked wolf riders.

add doom diver

Now you're 1055 with no chars but 445 pts is enough at this point level...

Damn...it seams that all O&G armies include savage orc big'uns, 60+ NG, and lobbers/divers

[Dark Aly]

I was under the impression that they are normal orc big uns not savage orcs.

While pump wagons are fun and quite good I think 4 may be 2 too many.

If you drop the 25 Orc boys and two pump wagons you could get 21 Black orcs (7x3)

[Glenn87]

You'll LOVE a Doom Diver. It really helps against WoC and Brettonia.
Also, Savages are better then normal Orcs. But you'll probally wont want to buy 30-40 or so.
There are 2 units that I don't understand. The 20 NG's. Are they a bunker? If so, you'll want your Shaman with them too?
And the 25 Orc Boyz. It seems like they won't hold their own in a combat.

[Glemigobles]

I was under the impression that they are normal orc big uns not savage orcs.

you're right... It's just so natural to take 40 AHW sorcs with a shaman that I've assumed they are savages...

On blorcs - I think that they are too expansive on this point level. Hell I have a tourney comming (dual 5k per side) and I'm still not sure if I'm able to field 20 monster huntin' blorcs with fire banner