Ninja Army?

[slingersam]

What do you guys think will make a good ninja/ samurai army? I was thinking grey knights. But then DE actually started making a lot of sense to me as well. So asking you guys which do you think wil be better. As well if you have other options why not.

[steevn]

i always thought that eldar had some japanese elements in it (banners on dire avengers, swords,...)

[ColShaw]

For samurai, I'd say Eldar. For ninjas, Dark Eldar all the way.

[Ozendorph]

Ninjas = genestealers. Lictors could be some sort of super ninjas, like Sho Kosugi. Samurai would be double-bonesword warriors. Do it.




Do it.

[slingersam]

I was asking for more game play wise. The idea of an army that hits hard in CC. Can be fast by the number of attacks, iniative, or just mobility. Can be slightly durable because of samurai armor. And has to do CC well even if its not its main focus

[Oppressor]

I would agree with ColShaw. Samurai = Eldar (striking scorpions stand out to me specifically) and Ninja = Dark Eldar.

[Chem-Dog]

One of the real advantages of playing a Ninja army is never having to paint any models

What about a Coteaz Henchman army? Lots of DCA's (and an OAO) for the Ninja element and some Crusaders as pseudo Samurai.
Could be fun.

You could even include a Dreadknight or two as giant RoboSamurai à la Sucker Punch

[Charistoph]

Which type of ninja? Movie or reality?

[slingersam]

I dont know the difference really.

[Sir_Turalyon]

Either Calidus Assassin (or three) or Alpha Legion disguised as Dark Eldar.

[carldooley]

I dont know the difference really.

movie ninja are best represented by Deldar. Webway gates et al - get in quick, kill your target, and get out quicker.

real ninjas can be represented with any faction really - do whatever it takes to do the mission, then fade away. . . (think Callidus Assassins)

the standard missions aren't really all that suited to ninja type missions. try sealed envelope objectives - a half dozen objectives sealed in envelopes with one chosen at random on both sides. Assassination, Objective, kill a certain number of units or a percentage of the enemy force, etc. . . the beautiful thing about playing in this manner is that both sides don't necessarily have the same victory conditions - just like in a real battle. (and both can have victories or defeats - so not really suited to tournaments either)

[ehlijen]

Shurikan Catapults. Enough said :P

[Wishing]

"Fast, durable, good in CC" could apply to almost any army type depending on how you build it. Grey Knights do seem to be perfect just for flexibility - use marines as samurai, and death cult assassins as ninja. Armoured guys with halberds and fast, flimsy assassins. Seems to work. It boils down to what kind of feel you want the army to have.

[x-esiv-4c]

I'd go with Chem's suggestion. Some kind of inquisitor army with a host of henchmen (deathcult assassins etc)

[Stonerhino]

Space Wolves would actually be the best fit.

Ninja = Wolf Scouts, Saga of the Hunter characters
Samurai = Most other units
Mounted Samurai = Thunder Wolves/bikes
Japanese Cannons = Long Fangs (Small cannons and limited in number)

[wyvirn]

I'd say eldar. Real ninjas weren't about killing entire armies, they were more like magician assassins. They know how to misdirect attention up to and even past the key moment, and use gimmicks to get away. I would use warp spiders to deep strike, shoot and pop back up, repeat to harass.

[Charistoph]

Ninjas were spies, pure and simple. They had access to cool tricks and gadgets, but nothing Bond-level. All that magic stuff and dressed in body-covering all comes from the stage. Quite often, a proper ninja looked and acted like a peasant or house-hold servant to be discreet. Samurai were the nobility and officers. Pure and simple. Then there were the peasantry.

If you're looking at movie-style, I definitely go for Grey Knights. Assassins are Ninja. Field Coteaz as the Daimyo, with the henchmen as the peasant troops, and Grey Knights as the OTT Samurai.

[Kevlar]

You would probably do better playing a clan eshin WFB army.

[Shamana]

What do you guys think will make a good ninja/ samurai army? I was thinking grey knights. But then DE actually started making a lot of sense to me as well. So asking you guys which do you think wil be better. As well if you have other options why not.

Both of these would be fine, I guess, and you could possibly use craftworld eldar as well (harlequins as ninja - they've got the speed, the punch, and the stealth-of-sorts). The problem with using eldar of any variety is that several of the thematic units are in the elites slot - harlequins, mandrakes, incubi, scorpions and banshees. Grey knights don't have that problem, especially if you use Coteaz to take henchmen as troops.

[igwarlord]

I agree with the level of eldar and d eldar
The eldar were supposed to have that samurai feel