Dark Angels in new 40K paint set

[Latro_]

The old paint set ones did

they did?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/ca...Id=prod1095431

oh you mean the current one:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/ca...Id=prod920007a

weird, no symbols when it was battle for macragge, then symbols when AoBR, now DA and no symbols again.

[Fluxeor]

It's not really hard to assume that both the 6th edit marines (though I expect a new sergeant sculpt) and starter paint set marines (as shown) are going to simply be minor resculpts of the existing push fits. All they really have to do is change the moulded markings on both sets tac marines and jobs a good un.

[RedemptionNL]

It's not really hard to assume that both the 6th edit marines (though I expect a new sergeant sculpt) and starter paint set marines (as shown) are going to simply be minor resculpts of the existing push fits. All they really have to do is change the moulded markings on both sets tac marines and jobs a good un.

And mill an expensive mould to produce the new plastic sprue, just for a change in a symbol.

[Fluxeor]

And mill an expensive mould to produce the new plastic sprue, just for a change in a symbol.

Just like they've done with the last few paint sets (Macragge and AoBR marines arn't hugely differant, just minor detailing changes and straps). .. 6th Edit sprues will almost certainly require a completely new mould if the removal of Orks is indeed true.

[Damaged Dan]

they did?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/ca...Id=prod1095431

oh you mean the current one:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/ca...Id=prod920007a

weird, no symbols when it was battle for macragge, then symbols when AoBR, now DA and no symbols again.

I mean that the marines in the current (AoBR) paint set are slightly different to the main AoBR box. The marines in the big starter set had no Ultramarine symbols, just tac squad markings.

Just out of interest, which one came first? The current marine paint set or AoBR?

Edit: Actually that's of no real relevence. Forget I asked.

[Fluxeor]

If I remember correctly (though I probably dont) they were released at the same time... if was definately within a very short timeframe.
There has however been 2 AoBR sets now. The original came with a strip of 6 paints (4ml iirc), pallet, marines and brush..
This one

and a 2010 re-package shown elsewhere in the thread with 8 pots of paint, brush and marines.

[dean]

They look like Salamanders to me actually, DA are darker and have red squad markings on the right pad, those are white. So unless you guys have got a better resolution pict then we probibly need to set this aside till we do get a clear look at it.

[Damaged Dan]

I thought Salamanders were a brighter green though?
Either way, you're right. We only have to wait until Saturday for a better look right?

[Darnok]

To me those models look exactly like the ones in the current paint set.

[farnham]

Each of the dark angel companies have different knee pad patterns, 3rd company are a red stripe, I think 4th or 5th have the checkered pattern.

[Druchii Monkey]

To me those models look exactly like the ones in the current paint set.

To me too. Two guns with straps, two with scopes, and one with neither. However i believe the shoulder pads had an Ultramarine symbol on - in which case they could have replaced this with a Dark Angel or Salamander symbol, or possibly just done without the symbol and added some transfers to the kit. I hope they have fixed Dark Angel symbols on them though.

[Polaria]

Dark angels are the new poster child?

Less focus on Ultramarines, to represent the new grim darkness angle?

If they are in the new starter set, dark angels are going to need a new codex, but would GW really use a (arguably minor) SM faction for the poster child, and surely the Vanilla Space Marine codex will be released quickly after the 6th rulebook? So......

Are the DA being "reabsorbed" into the Vanilla Space Marine codex?

I think it would actually be a GOOD thing. Both Dark Angels and other Chapters would get their new, shiny, 6th edition codex faster, biker armies would be retained for both Dark Angels and all the other Chapters. Same probably for Terminator armies. There would be less focus on Ultramarines... Its a win-win if I ever saw one.

As for the Dark Angels in the paint set, I think they are exactly the miniatures in old paint set, but with new scheme... What I'm more interested is what paints come in the new set?

[jimbo1701]

To me those models look exactly like the ones in the current paint set.

But the right shoulder (and possibly left) is resculpted, either to be blank or have the alternative tactical symbol. Colour is hard to tell at that resolution (likely dark green) but the red bolters are a definite - unless they are going for retro UM colours it suggests dark angels.

[The Dude]

They are painted as Dark Angels. They are different from the current paint set minis. They are certainly BASED on the current paint set minis.

All that remains to be seen is if the squad markings are sculpted or not.

[gunmnky]

They look like Salamanders to me actually, DA are darker and have red squad markings on the right pad, those are white. So unless you guys have got a better resolution pict then we probibly need to set this aside till we do get a clear look at it.

Note quite. The right shoulder pad is the white DA chapter icon and the left is "other" (Adeptus Mechanicus, Crux Terminatus, Tactical, Assault, etc). Also, salamanders have black shoulder pads and are a lighter shade of green. Not to mention dark or metallic colored bolters.

EDIT: Nevermind, I had it backwards. I wonder if they're changing the badge arms, or if it's another symbol that hasn't been used. Either way, they are definitely Dark Angels.

[Kurai]

I can't make out colors except for the white markings and something dark. It's a really blurry and grainy pic. Could just as well be something else.

[Poncho160]

Slighty off topic, but I hate the rifle slings on Marine bolters!!!!! They are completley in the wrong place and just wouldn't work!!! It is propbably the only thing that annoys me about this game!!

Sorry rant over

[Starchild]

Slighty off topic, but I hate the rifle slings on Marine bolters!!!!! They are completley in the wrong place and just wouldn't work!!! It is propbably the only thing that annoys me about this game!!

If that's the only thing then you're in good shape. :P

Regarding the possibility of these being DAs from the forthcoming starter set... I'm leaning toward the answer of no. Considering how detailed the DA chapter upgrade sprue is, I'd expect to see at least an incense burner here or there, or maybe extra purity seals etc.

[jimbo1701]

Just to add a few things in here, there's no doubt that the bolter is red and if you look at the bottom left marine you can clearly see the horizontal, double-pronged alternative tactical symbol in white. The other shoulder pad is unclear (it's a white symbol of some sort) but the colour itself would appear to be a dark green, or so says my colour picker in paint. (hardly conclusive but hey)

Where it gets more interesting is looking at the leaked picture of 5 paints and the list of upcoming paints. The layer paints have a blue symbol as seen in the leaked EBay pic, hence this set contains 2. There are four red symbol paints which are bases, and one green symbol - a shade perhaps? The last one is grey representing either a techincal or texture paint perhaps?

Now we know there has to be a green in there which is likely to be a base. This is very likely 'caliban green' which can just be made out on the bottom row in the middle and is indeed a base (red label). What is a little puzzling is the absence of a white for the trim. The layer white (needing a blue label) is called white scar, and should be either the top left or bottom right paint. However, looking at the lines of text on the paint tub, neither appear to fit that. Going back to the grey symbol, I believe that is a techinical paint called imperial primer from the lines of text - perhaps this is a generic priming colour black as opposed to the base abaddon black???

Based on all of the above, knowing the colours for a Dark Angels paint scheme and the leaked resources we can make an educated guess as to the identities of the paints. My best estimate the paints (top left to bottom right) are as follows:

layer - tallarn sand?
base - mournfang brown?
technical - imperial primer
base - mephiston red
shade - coelia greenshade
base - caliban green
base - leadbelcher
layer - screaming skull??

EDIT - having checked the leaked paint chart I am confident of all the colours except the ones with a '?' next to them.

[7idledays]

or it might mean a lot:



Dark angels are the new poster child?

Less focus on Ultramarines, to represent the new grim darkness angle?

If they are in the new starter set, dark angels are going to need a new codex, but would GW really use a (arguably minor) SM faction for the poster child, and surely the Vanilla Space Marine codex will be released quickly after the 6th rulebook? So......

Are the DA being "reabsorbed" into the Vanilla Space Marine codex?

I doubt it, because they are far from vanilla. Also weren't Dark Angels the poster children Marines prior to 3rd Edition? They do fit the whole "grim darkness" theme much better.