1000pts Eldar - Help Needed

[Rekon]

40K Army: Eldar

Hi Guys,

I've just got back into 40k after a few years and my friends have set up a 1000pts Tournement/League. I'm expecting mostly Marines, Choas Marines and Tau. One of the Choas players will likely field a large number of plague marines.

I've thought of three options:

List 1:

Farseer - 95 points
- Runes of Warding, Doom

Fire Dragons x 5 - 80 points
Wave Serpent - 125 points
- TL Scatter Laser, Spirit Stones

Dire Avengers x 10 - 152 points
- Exarch, Two Catapults, Bladestorm
Wave Serpent - 135 points
- TL Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones

Dire Avengers x 10 - 152 points
- Exarch, Two Catapults, Bladestorm
Wave Serpent - 140 points
- TL Missile Launcher, Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones

War Walkers x 3 - 120 Points
Shuriken Cannons x 6

Total 999 points


List 2

Farseer - 95 points
- Runes of Warding, Doom

Fire Dragons x 5 - 80 points
Wave Serpent - 135 points
- TL Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones

Dire Avengers x 10 - 152 points
- Exarch, Two Catapults, Bladestorm
Wave Serpent - 135 points
- TL Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones

Dire Avengers x 10 - 152 points
- Exarch, Two Catapults, Bladestorm
Wave Serpent - 135 points
- TL Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones

Fireprism - 115

Total 999 points


List 3

Farseer - 95 points
- Runes of Warding, Doom

Fire Dragons x 5 - 80 points
Wave Serpent - 110 points
- TL Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones

Fire Dragons x 5 - 80 points
Wave Serpent - 110 points
- TL Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones

Dire Avengers x 10 - 152 points
- Exarch, Two Catapults, Bladestorm
Wave Serpent - 110 points
- TL Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones

Dire Avengers x 10 - 152 points
- Exarch, Two Catapults, Bladestorm
Wave Serpent - 110 points
- TL Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones

Total 999 Points

I'm open to any suggestions or changes. Although I'm not a massive fan of DAVU as I like my Avengers to Bladestorm!

[Rekon]

anyone? I was also thinking that I could turn one of those DA squads to a DAVU and take a second fire prism..?

[Geep]

I like list 2 the most. It has a variety of things and the Fireprism is pretty versatile.
List 1 could also be interesting, but Warwalkers can fall down pretty easily to moderate strength shooting- having another tank (list 1) should be stretching your opponent's ant-tank abilities at 1000pts (unless they can tailor the list against you, or you are in a vehicle heavy playing group).
List 3 isn't bad, but I'm not a fan of squads being that repetitive.

[bobafett_h]

I also like list 2 the most. However, I'd drop some upgrades such as the Shuriken Cannons on the Serpents to put Holofields on the Fire Prism.

List 1 would be OK too, but I'd probably put Scatter Lasers on all of the Walkers and EMLs on the Wave Serpents instead of how it is now.

List 3 lacks any long range anti-armour so you need to rely on getting Fire Dragons in close which can be dangerous.

[Rekon]

Yeah, I was favouring the second list, just wasn't sure about running a Fire Prism solo.

Do you think survivability on the Prism is more important than fire power at 1000 points? I could drop the shuriken cannons, but I'd also have to drop the scatter laser to shuriken cannon on the fire dragon's serpent.

[bobafett_h]

The Fire Prism IS fire power. It would provide the only long range anti-armour in the list so anything that helps it survive longer to keep firing is a benefit. The Fire Dragons are good at popping tanks, but normally require at least 1 turn before they are in range to do anything. The Prism can usually start blasting things straight away without having to move at all. It can also wipe out any squishy horde like infantry quite well too...

Dropping one Scatter Laser for a Shuriken Cannon is not that big of a loss since you are only losing one shot and a few inches range...

[Rekon]

Yeah, that makes sense. I've revised the list, but I've got 11 points spare.....


Farseer - 95 points
- Runes of Warding, Doom

Fire Dragons x 5 - 80 points
Wave Serpent - 110 points
- TL Shuriken Cannon, TL Shuriken Catapults, Spirit Stones

Dire Avengers x 10 - 152 points
- Exarch, Two Catapults, Bladestorm
Wave Serpent - 125 points
- TL Scatter Laser, TL Shuriken Catapults, Spirit Stones

Dire Avengers x 10 - 152 points
- Exarch, Two Catapults, Bladestorm
Wave Serpent - 125 points
- TL Scatter Laser, TL Shuriken Catapults, Spirit Stones

Fireprism - 150
-Holofields, TL Shuriken Catapults.

Total 989 Points.

...So, do I add a Shuriken Cannon somewhere, upgrade the scatters to missile launchers or add spirit stones to the Fire Prism? Or, I could reshuffule the scatters down to shuri cannons to get another fire dragon?

[Vandraz]

5 dragons are more than enough at 1000pts, 5 man dragon squads are normally always enough regardless of the points cap. I personally would put spirit stones on the prism, as it will attract alot of fire and if it gets stunned then its a sitting target, at least by giving it ss you can drop it back into a position of safety.

[Skarsi]

Also use the other points from the WS you don`t need on some thing else like upgradeing your Farseer to Eldrad

[Skarsi]

I have been running Eldar for a while now and I find if you are running a Farseer use him as a buff unit instead of an offensive one, put fortune on him instead of doom and stick him with the fire dragons in the falcon