Present your army at the beginning of the game

[Warrior of Chaos]

Visions of me in a scanty thong, lightly oiled...

I think I threw up a little bit in the back of my throat at this one Brother...

PROMISE ME that you'll never get that in depth on a deployment call-out for one of our games!

[RanaldLoec]

At least write down who your general is to avoid incidents of oh he's dead well he wasn't my general the guy next to him was.........

As for playing against an old up gamer in a thong to quote Harry BRING IT ON.

I would go one further using my Slaanesh themed warriors of chaos wearing a pouch, nipple tassles covered in strawberry sauce head to toe with a scanty clad lady boy sprawled at my feet.

Nothing like getting into character for leading you armies.

[Warrior of Chaos]

^Wrong on sooooo many levels. LMAO

[Glen_Savet]

At least write down who your general is to avoid incidents of oh he's dead well he wasn't my general the guy next to him was.........

As for playing against an old up gamer in a thong to quote Harry BRING IT ON.

I would go one further using my Slaanesh themed warriors of chaos wearing a pouch, nipple tassles covered in strawberry sauce head to toe with a scanty clad lady boy sprawled at my feet.

Nothing like getting into character for leading you armies.

Sounds like my normal game nights! ^_~

[Brother Haephestus]

Heh.

And here I was worried that I was being a bad influence. Clearly, I am but the amateur here.

[RanaldLoec]

I was going to start a Khorne army but my local gaming club banned me from using khorne.

I seem to remember there being a problem with dismembering the yoofs and beheading beaten opponents while showering in the blood of a thousand innocents. What's the issue its just like extreme larping but with a bit of blood.

I tell you its a health and safety society, its PC Gone mad. (oh listen to me I sound like a daily mail reader).

[Evil Hypnotist]

I tend to let the convention be dictated by my opponent, I play people who are very informative when they place their units and, conversely, people who would rather you didn't realise you were facing daemons until they were ripping you apart in combat One player did start telling me his magic items once but I informed him that wasn't necessary (mainly because I didn't want to tell him mine!). The way I describe my units is how I would imagine the enemy scouts would inform their superiors e.g. "about 20 warriors, with a hero".

[samael]

Besides - ask yourself. Do you REALLY want me to reveal EVERYTHING at the setup?

(Visions of me in a scanty thong, lightly oiled, sends shudders of terror down my OWN spine. Sheesh - more rolls than a German bakery here ....)

This brings back memories of a game I've played with a mate during the hight of summer on my blisteringly hot attic. We both ended up playing in nothing more than our shorts . The airconditioning got installed soon after.

On topic, in our group we always tell eachother what units we have but not any magic items or hidden models that they might have, it's all part of the suspense.

[DaemonReign]

In our group we usually decide Scenario/Match-Up prior to building our respective lists.
Those lists, however, are closed until the actual units are deployed.
Wizards and their magic levels are disclosed in the pre-phase when their spells are determined.
After deployment is done (i.e. Characters placed) each side typically goes through their army unit by unit (i.e. 'In this unit I have my BSB and General.. And here I have a Hero.. etcetera)
The rest is basically disclosed based on whether or not you'd actually be able to see *it* from across the no-man's land.
So equipment like Spears/Shields/GreatWeapons but definately not Magic Items/Weapons or such things.

[SlaaneshSlave]

Magic items are hidden, everything is stated. I think Chaos Marks should be declared too.

I don't want to win because my opponent thought he was charging skavenslaves, but they were actually Queek's Stormvermin.

I do like winning because after my opponent used his dispel scroll & last dispel die I cast Plague with 2 extra Warp Tokens and a Powerscroll. Or he has another magic protection item I did not count on.

It should be a fair fight... Well, as fair it can be sneaky rats!

[orc_maddness]

Hmm, Me and my family play it that we provide each other with out army lists and we allow each other to build around each others army. At the end of the day, if your opponent does not give you any information on his army at all, how would you know he is not cheating, and what would stop them from stating that one character is a general from another when you destroy one?

[Lyynark]

Simple trust and common decensy?
You can always provide the list after the battle so your opponents can verify there nere no foul play.

[DragonArmy]

I have a clear distinction to make:

There shouldn't be a difference between the answers "wysiwyg" and, "i announce what the unit is once the unit is placed down at the beginning of the game." The point of wysiwyg is that the unit is saying (and reminding everyone) what is in the unit.

And if i play an opponent who at the beginning of the game when I ask, "wait, does that unit have a full command and great weapons?" he responds, "sorry, learn my armies models, i don't have to tell you," I will pick up my army and leave.

I would also discourage competitive older players from trying to gain an advantage on newer players through trying to "hide" information that is supposed to be evident when the unit is placed.

[Arctaeus]

Every Warhammer game i've played I show my army list to my opponent before the game starts, and he/she shows me their army list

We're all very friendly here

[orc_maddness]

best way to go !

[Grimgormx]

This brings back memories of a game I've played with a mate during the hight of summer on my blisteringly hot attic. We both ended up playing in nothing more than our shorts . The airconditioning got installed soon after.

On topic, in our group we always tell eachother what units we have but not any magic items or hidden models that they might have, it's all part of the suspense.

Oh My God, we dont need Striphammer!!!!!

[Yowzo]

Every Warhammer game i've played I show my army list to my opponent before the game starts, and he/she shows me their army list

We're all very friendly here

I always have a spare army list if the opponent wants full disclosure, in case he prefers to keep magic items secret, I'll just tell him (and expect to be told) at least the loadout on each unit like, say, 40 halberdiers with full command or 30 savage orc big'uns with double choppa, standard and musician.

[charlarino]

we like to show each other our lists before a game. and we always go through our troops after deploying, stating things such as 20 warriors with shields and a sorceress, 35 warriors fc etc etc...
(I play dark elves)

[wilsongrahams]

Presenting your army should be a case of pointing out everything is as it appears, which characters are heros and which are lords, who is your general, and which are wizards etc.

As to the 'these clanrats are stormvermin' issue - if not using the correct models this should have been pointed out from the start before the game began. Occasionally I take my archers without command, and I make a special case for my general and before deployment I will state 'Everything is what it should be, armed as it is, except my archers have no command and my general does not have a shield but it is part of his magic armour instead' - simply because my general has a shield but I tend to take a 2+ armour which does not allow shields - this clears up anything that is not onvious from simply looking at the models. The magic items themselves I do not reveal.

Whilst I do not condone proxy armies, I think the onus is on the proxying player to ensure no mistakes are made and that there is no 'your own fault for not remembering etc' so just mention as you move each unit 'my chosen are going to move up here...' etc just to keep gently reminding your opponent what they are. Games are played to have fun, not to win.

[Hallock]

So far the tourney's I've played in make you write copies of lists sometimes 10 or more. (This is stupid in my opinion, the judge or any facilitator should have one extra list to show your opponents. I will show my list anyway at request but I'll only ask someone to see their list when they have revealed that item or character in question or special rules I am not familiar with. You can also find out from other people that have already played your opponent but again this is disconcerting sometimes. I may bend it a little if I ever made it to play the best player in the world at a champion tourney LOL..!