Autumn of Fliers

[Konovalev]

As for the scale, I read somewhere that it was tiny, and it is. The box is at least 50% air, so it is very disappointing to be hyped into buying a bigger box for this kit.

I picked one [a stormtalon box] up at a store this weekend to look at the pictures on the side, and it rattled something fierce. I know it's plastic and therefore unlikely to be damaged by this, but my initial thought was oh god i've broken it...

[Fluxeor]

I like the conversion, but I'm not so keen on having the missile pods mounted where they and the removal of the AC's turret configuration. It makes the Talon look more like a fixed wing aircraft rather than a gunship, which by no means is a bad thing, I feel it just doesn't suit the Talon as it's been described in WD.

[MajorWesJanson]

My main issue with the new fliers in person is that the marine and ork fliers lack backstop pieces for the flight stand, so they tend to wobble
Still, having lots of fun building them. Just waiting for some magnets and a second Guard HK missile to finish my marine flier.

[RedemptionNL]

My main issue with the new fliers in person is that the marine and ork fliers lack backstop pieces for the flight stand, so they tend to wobble

Sounds like something easy to fix with a lump of greenstuff glued on the inside, with the flight stand's cross pressed into it.

[Bigglesworth]

My main issue with the new fliers in person is that the marine and ork fliers lack backstop pieces for the flight stand, so they tend to wobble
Still, having lots of fun building them. Just waiting for some magnets and a second Guard HK missile to finish my marine flier.

Wobbling? No No, thats simply them taking evasive action.

[Dorian Weaver]

Someone posted a picture with the missile pods on top of the fuselage, just above the canopy. It looked good too, because it did not emphasize the wings too much, so kept the VTOL look alive, if you will. I just couldn't bring myself to love the undercarriage turret with attached landing ger. Just couldn't.

[ilikebmxbikes]

Wow, you guys are observant. Yes, I did reverse the tail wings, it felt a little more aggressive, imho.

To be honest, I was waiting to see if conversions were going to crop up, before I posted mine. I was just tired of waiting.

As for the scale, I read somewhere that it was tiny, and it is. The box is at least 50% air, so it is very disappointing to be hyped into buying a bigger box for this kit.

Most of my friends noticed the Cthulhu statue... and you guys go for the thunderhawk canopy behind it. I love this community. It is a scratchbuilt one, but it has the same length as the FW one, it is being painted (deathwatchy colours, as it is a gift for a friend). I will of course take pics next to my Valkyrie and stormtalon (the furaingu jagaimo, which translates as Flying Potato) before the end of the day.

your conversion looks much better than the GW version.

I think the GW version is the the ugliest most out of place model GW has produced in a decade. I rarely bash anything or publicly complain about GW stuff but the storm talon is a joke. I am a blood angels player and have stayed away from the storm raven as I think it looks a bit out-of-place too but the Storm Talon is so much worse. I wish GW would have stuck with their traditional space marine aesthetic and made something more in the silhouette of the Thunderhawk, FW Storm Eagle or even more of a bulked up landspeeder.

On a better note, the Necron flier and Ork Bomber look really good.

[Excessus]

Most conversions of it look better than the original. Funnily enough, I've only seen one picture of a non-converted one...

[Graeme]

Most conversions of it look better than the original. Funnily enough, I've only seen one picture of a non-converted one...

Oooh, was it mine? Say nice things about it warseer, it feels so unloved with it's Jimmy Hill chin.

[Stickmonkey]

I'd love to say good things about a "non-converted" Stormtalon...unfortunately, yours is converted and doesn't qualify.

...tail backwards conversion...

Otherwise, nice paint job.

[Graeme]

Ha! Well spotted. It was a matter of weighing up whether having the flappy things backwards or keeping the designer-intended forward sweep of the 'spoiler' (can you tell I don't know a lot about planes...) would look sillier.

[Daigar]

I actually glued the tailwing backwards on my Stormtalon without even noticing it. I later changed it because it made the details look weird (the.. flappy stuff and that the front of the wing was not aerodynamic). I'm actually considering a detail conversion for that right now... I also convereted the assault cannons on mine, right now I'm working on magnetizing the heavy bolters and lascannon so that they attach to the hull. Guns look really weird on those side pods, while missiles don't bother me at all.

[Teronas]

Have i really missed something? these looks like nothing but skimmers, where is the flier in all of this? I for one hope that these rules are nothing but place holders, if i want to use a flier i'd rather use the Forgeworld rules because atm these are nothing but fast skimmers and not fliers at all.

[MajorWesJanson]

Have i really missed something? these looks like nothing but skimmers, where is the flier in all of this? I for one hope that these rules are nothing but place holders, if i want to use a flier i'd rather use the Forgeworld rules because atm these are nothing but fast skimmers and not fliers at all.

It's currently expected that the fast skimmers on flying stands we currently have will be updated to proper fliers with distinct flier rules in 6th.

[Infern0]

I think the GW version is the the ugliest most out of place model GW has produced in a decade. I rarely bash anything or publicly complain about GW stuff but the storm talon is a joke. I am a blood angels player and have stayed away from the storm raven as I think it looks a bit out-of-place too but the Storm Talon is so much worse.
On a better note, the Necron flier and Ork Bomber look really good.

I would still nominate the dredknight as the "most out of place model"

ST looks ok only from its side though...

[Tastyfish]

It's currently expected that the fast skimmers on flying stands we currently have will be updated to proper fliers with distinct flier rules in 6th.

More than seeming just common sense and speculation? I could easily see it being more likely that there's some comment about flyers and flying stands in the bit of the large rulebook that brings up Apocalypse. In 40K (especially with their inclusion in the new marine eCodex) I would see them staying as counting as fast skimmers with usually the ability to move a bit faster if they want.

[Beppo1234]

It's currently expected that the fast skimmers on flying stands we currently have will be updated to proper fliers with distinct flier rules in 6th.

I think that can be figured out by looking at the newly release CSM. Didn't the other thread on the subject say that the new online book contained the rules for the ST? If so, then it I think it would be safe to assume that those distinctions would be present in that 'book'

[scourge66]

I think that can be figured out by looking at the newly release CSM. Didn't the other thread on the subject say that the new online book contained the rules for the ST? If so, then it I think it would be safe to assume that those distinctions would be present in that 'book'

just lists them as fast skimmers exact same rules copy and pasted from the WD for now will be updated with new ed.

[Beppo1234]

just lists them as fast skimmers exact same rules copy and pasted from the WD for now will be updated with new ed.

what's the point of releasing an E book a month before the new edition, and having to update it 4-5 weeks later? GW may be illogical from time to time, but I doubt it goes that far. Maybe the definition of fast skimmer will change. But I think we've got what we've got. I don't think things will change that much

[shabbadoo]

Or the FAQ will simply state, "Change the Stormtalon's (or whetever's) Vehicle Type from "Skimmer, Fast" to "Flier". Done.

Wow that was hard. Then we won't have Infantry playing badminton with jet planes.