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    Master of Ordnance assaulting after firing

    So a simple question, can the MoO assault after firing? Because infantry are not meant to be able to carry Ordnance there is no specific rule i can find that says that you can't. Ordnance is no longer a subset of Heavy so that doesn't apply. In the MoOs rules it says you can only fire if you haven't moved yet that turn, which i take to be a clarification because otherwise there would be nothing stopping him, though the rule says nothing about assaulting.

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    Re: Master of Ordnance assaulting after firing

    I'll have to check, as I'm sure there is a FAQ relating to this, thanks to defilers- units that mount ordnance, and might actually WANT to assualt....
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    Re: Master of Ordnance assaulting after firing

    We did check IG and main rulebook FAQ quickly when this came up, although we didn't check the chaos one... The defiler did come up though as the only other unit we could think of that might be affected.

    EDIT: can't see anything in the CSM FAQ
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    Re: Master of Ordnance assaulting after firing

    The only other infantry carried ordnance weapon i can think of is the Ork SAG, and that specifically says to treat as heavy for the purposes of movement & assult. So I would just go with it counting as heavy.
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    Re: Master of Ordnance assaulting after firing

    Marine chapter masters orbital bombardment?

    The old IG demo charge, from the 4th ed book was also hand held ordnance. I'll see if their update to 5th ed FAQ helps...Nope, no mention.
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    Re: Master of Ordnance assaulting after firing

    Well, we do have the GK Codex pg. 58 Orbital Strike Relay
    .....is treated as a ranged weapon that can be used provided that the bearer did not move in the preceding Movement phase (though he can later assault if the controlling player wishes)
    Granted a simular but different piece of wargear, it is a clue on how it should be treated.
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    Re: Master of Ordnance assaulting after firing

    Artillery Bombardment specifically says that he has tp have not moved in the preceding movement phase. As an infantry model he has the ability to launch an assault and nothing in the Artillery Bombardment rules or subsequent FAQs removes that ability - therefore he can assault.

    It makes perfect sense given that he hasn't actually fired the weapon in question (fluff wise, rules wise its his one weapon for the turn) so there's not recoil to worry about and he doens't have to waste time packing up a heavy weapon.
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    Re: Master of Ordnance assaulting after firing

    I agree with what others have said. There is nothng from preventing him from assaulting. I would always allow an opponent to do so anyway.. I mean if you have the guts to drop an ordnance template that can scatter up to 3d6" onto a target within 6" of your 6 or so man guard squad, then by all means complete your MoO's deathwish!

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    Re: Master of Ordnance assaulting after firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Bunnahabhain View Post
    I'll have to check, as I'm sure there is a FAQ relating to this, thanks to defilers- units that mount ordnance, and might actually WANT to assualt....
    There's no such restriction on assaulting after firing Ordnance weapons (it's just a little dangerous is all). FWIW there WAS such a restriction in 4th ed.
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    Re: Master of Ordnance assaulting after firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimtuff View Post
    There's no such restriction on assaulting after firing Ordnance weapons (it's just a little dangerous is all). FWIW there WAS such a restriction in 4th ed.
    I remember the 4th ed one. Made demo charges so useful- " Don't charge, just stand there and look surprised that you didn't get blown up by your own weapon!"
    I though there was still some odd restriction that wasn't at all obvious from the core rules....
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