Dicky does: Gorewing

[Rich 123]

Hello everyone,

Some of you may recognise me from the Imperial project logs where I have been working on this Marine army. Every mini was converted and it nearly killed me over the course of about 6 years!

I have long wanted to take on a Chaos army and, now I've finally finished the marines, I thought his was an ideal time. I've always loved the idea of Khorne (but the slightly more subtle Rogue Trader iteration of his World Eaters) and when the SW codex came out I thought this would be perfect for doing a marine army with a super low head count.

I love to convert minis a lot and especially terminator armour. So my plan is to create a very small individual looking Khornate warband consisting of two squads of Khorne's sacred number all wearing terminator armour where the two squads each have a very different personality - one will be lead by a near-as-damn daemon prince (as a brutal looking counts as for Logan Grimnar) leading a more feral looking squad while the other would appear a little more rational, lead by an old World Eaters librarian (as a Wolf Lord counts as) and those in the know will remember that Khorne World Eaters used to have librarians though they just really kept a rough and ready kill count!

Though what to refer to them as… Slaughterwing? Bloodwing, skulking? I think I've pretty much settled on Gorewing in my mind though of course they would never use that name themselves. To further the individual elements of the force I will steadily develop fluff, names and unique wargear for each marine (though really it will all just be renamed SW kit!). I am planning on a very dark and gritty look for this army with a deep red armour (as an excuse to get my airbrush out again) with very worn and battered metalwork.

Now as is traditional with these things here is a picture of my workspace (it also doubles as my studio so in this shot there isn't a mini in sight!)


But enough of that and on with the show!

This is where I first started with some of the 'basic' terminator marines. I really am not a fan of the 'bunny ears' aesthetic so please don't expect to see anything like that here, I want to go for a very dynamic aggressive look with all these minis wearing massive suits of terminator armour.

Here are the first of my, still very WIP, terminators. Bear in mind these are still WIP and mostly just Blu-Tacced together but they are shown here with a human scale mini to give you sense of how much bigger and, more importantly, wider that hey have become with a combination of all the term kits - loyalist, Space Wolf and chaos - and plenty of plasticard and GreenStuff.




Now, much as I envisage the Librarian as appearing relatively rational, unmutated and representative of the martial prowess of Khorne's nature I want him to be vying with the warband's ultimate lord, a feral, half mutated monster of a terminator representing Khorne's aggressive and violent personality aspects.

This is the very beginning of this conversion, which is only just really started if I'm honest and the hips are just balanced in place here. Already the legs are much longer than the other terms. Eventually this minis will have dogleg jointed legs, cloven feet mirroring the classic manifestation of the devil and very hairy as his 'blessings' cause him to erupt out of his armour.


Now with a sacred number of Khorne being 8 I needed to give some thought to how I could swing a Crusader in the army suitable to pack all those terminators in. Now Chaos doesn't have them and I wasn't entirely happy with explaining it away as just a stolen marine crusader so I decided to heavily convert a Land Raider that I hope will represent the key features of a crusader but looking uniquely more brutal and bespoke! But this is just as far as I have got - not very far as you can tell!

I don;t know if anyone can identify any of this but it will be based around the FW Achilles main weapon and the FW Prometheus heavy bolter sponsons. I think that would look suitably analogous to a Loyalist Crusader but just turned up to 10!

This is just a post to start this log off and I will flesh it out with my planned list, wargear lists so you can interpret it all and start to build the fluff as I get on further with the minis. Early days yet but I will be developing this thread and everything in it more and more as time goes by, and anyone of the long time followers from my marine thread will know that I genuinely mean that!

Before anyone mentions it, I know it is trendy to field SW proxy lists at the moment for super-winning-power or some such, but this really isn't me. I don't often game and I'm definitely not very good at it and I just felt this codex using a full Logan-wing force, would give me the modeling scope I crave for!

Keep checking back in as I will be adding to this a lot and looking forward to showing some more substantial progress to give you all a better idea what's boiling around in my head!

Thanks for looking and C&C even this early is always welcome,
Dicky

[Cassora]

Wow, looking forward too see this army grow! Followd your loyal marine army so I have high expactaions.

[movin_pics]

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[Catferret]

Looks like a good start. The terminators look aces. It'll be good to see you use all your knowledge and skills from the last few years on a new project.

[Rich 123]

Thanks for the early comments all of you! I've been looking forward to starting something new as well Catferret, whereas marines have to be neat and tidy to a point, I think a Khornate force will really let me experiment with armour styles and try to improve my details sculpting in the process.

I will post some more progress once I've finished work this evening (although I've got quite a lot on today, of course - it's a Monday!).

Dicky

[jpwyrm]

Hi there Rich123! I must say I look forward to follow this log, as I've ghosted around your marine log and it's a blast from start to finish! Hope we don't have to wait a year or two for some updates on this

[Rich 123]

Thanks jpwyrm! Although haha I know just what you mean! This force will be minute in comparison to the marines (which wasn't a massive force anyway) so I should be able to keep my motivation up a bit better!

I have some really fun tax things I need to do tonight once I've finished work but I will post some pics this evening when I'm done. Planning on hopefully getting in a bit more modeling time too.

Thanks for looking,
Dicky

[gonzosbignose]

I was always a keen follower of your marine blog. Your ability to cut and shape marines is second to none and i have no doubt that this will equally turn into a modellers dream.

Your initial work is testiment to your patience and skill and the smoothness of your sculpting and shaping frankly staggers me. I've been modelling now for nearly 20 years and I find your skill truly mind blowing.

Looking forward to seeing more.

Regards

My name is Daniel and i am a wargamer

[Rich 123]

Good to see you here Gonzo and thank you very much for your kind comments! If I'm honest I'm really glad to be working on something other than golden marines, but at the same time I've got really familiar with all of the marine kits so this should be a fun one to let my hair down.

I have a bit of work I need to do right now before I can get on to some modelling but thought I'd show a pic of what little I managed last night. A suitable bespoke alternative to a Crusader that I'm hopping most people will think is close enough visually to proxy as one.

Most of this is just tacked/balanced together as I haven't even started altering the interior but I want to figure out the hull weapon and top plate before any converting or painting work is done on the interior.

The Thundefire cannon just clears the front hatch when it's open (although you'd have to stop firing it of course!). I am going to be suing the FW World Eaters doors but as it seems FW still can't cast these parts for a correct fit I want to cut and fit them to the stock doors. I intend to retain the profile of a land raider but I do want to de-loyalise the aesthetic a bit by squaring off some of the mitred corners, filling some of the random holes and vents in the armour and add lots and lots of trim!

The lord has just had a little gap filling done on his legs so I might work on that more this evening. I want tot get a good solid base to the legs before starting on the torso so I have a good idea of the finished size for matching the scales.

Thanks for looking, even though there isn't much here yet!
Dicky

[Rich 123]

Hello again one and all,

I haven't had much time for modeling these last few days (I've been very busy with work) but I have made some headway.

I have done a bit of sculpting on the daemon lord's legs - they're separate so I can do the armour and to make my life easier bulking up the waist.

I put a bit of effort into getting the ankles for hooves right and then decided I wanted to wrap hair around them. The thighs have been bulked up but I think I want to pull the armour a bit further down projecting over his knees. Then on to starting to detail the armour plates!

I have worked on the Crusader equivalent as well and I think it is starting to look like a more vicious version of one



The gun mount is pretty much fished, I think the ammo feed above is sitting way too high but that is about it. Now I have the weapons worked out I'll then be filling in gaps and armour plates that I feel like and starting to clad it in trimming for a suitably Chaosy look. Here's a close up with the gun in place.

And heres a shot of the inside showing the bracing to hold this all together. The reason I did it this way is that I prefer the techy-type details of the Prometheus front and top hull and that the Achilles front hull is one solid chunk of resin and I wanted there to be as little restricting the door as possible.


Also attached is a work in progress army list. I'm initially aiming for 750pts but wanted to keep in mind a larger force as there will be a very small headcount here. This is really meant as a PDF but I thought JPEGs would be easier for you all. There are wargear pages which you will need to make head or tail of my themed list - I like doing this - but there is also one that is correct to the SW Codex too. As you can see I still need to figure out a lot of names, and none of them have any back story, and the formatting is shot but you get the idea!

Thanks for looking and C&C is always welcome.
Dicky

[Ormo]

Can't critique as its *******' awesome. Really looking forward to seeing some paint on these guys.

[dwarf]

Really love the idea and your sculpting skills are amazing

[Rich 123]

Hello again,

Just a really quick update before I start some work but hopefully I should have a bigger update for you later on.

Thanks for the kind comments guys - unfortunately not much to look at yet and as I intend to airbrush all of the red on this force Ormo I won't be starting to paint until I have a few more minis fully completed to justify the set up time.

Here is some more development on the Lord, this is really WIP as the torso will only be attached when it's finished (and not with a blob of BluTac by then!) but this should start to give you an idea of my vision for him and shown here compared to one of the Khornate terms and some other, normal sized minis for scale - I wanted him to be big on a 40mm base as if on the way to daemonhood.


I want this guy to appear like he is partly mutating and growing out of his armour and partly as if his armour his fusing into him and want it to be hard to tell where one starts and the other stops. I will rattan the terminator style vents on the back but it has been widened and the ridge you can see on the top of his armour is the basis for vertebrae that will run down the back of the armour. I wanted ribbed and fused chest armour (and a Nid warrior seemed like a good base rather than starting from scratch that will appear to have fused into the armour but exposed abs underneath and bear arms (probably using Ork nob arms as a starting point).

A caveat however, this is really really WIP and, as you can probably see, the chest rides way too high for the size of the legs. So I will drop the hips so they sit more closely tot he tops of the legs and probably cover the lowest ribs with abdominal muscles instead.

I will hopefully have another update for you later tonight where I will have done some actual sculpting on the torso and maybe even have the start of his weapons to show of (or at least ramble at great length about!) and additionally some more to shown on the LR Crusader.

Thanks for looking and keep your eyes peeled!

Dicky

[Ghaust Mortium]

First off, I reallyyy reallllyy enjoy the size and bulking you have done to your terminators. Fantastic work. If only we all could that But i was curious as to what the Gorewing rules are from? Im gather its from maybe an IA? But i don't know. Thanks for letting me know

[Rich 123]

THanks Ghaust Mortium! This is something I've been mulling over for a while and it's proving a lot of fun - with such a small headcount in the army it means I can justifying putting a lot of work in each.

I think you're going to be terribly disappointed by my answer… but it's actually just the Space Wolf codex creatively adapted and I made up the name Gorewing as an extension to the Deathwing or Loganwing! In a post of mine further up there are two (rather crummy jpeg work of a work in progress) army lists, one is a World Eater themed one, while the other is the same again but with the actually SW gear listed. I haven't changed any rules, just created a wargear list of the same stuff that fits with the theme but with different names - it proves how flexible the SW list can be I think.

One of the Vrask books has a Khorne warband list but I specifically wanted to do a really low headcount all terminator army. The Khorne thme just gave me an opportunity to convert everything!

Thanks for looking,
Dicky

[Rich 123]

Hello again,

Well when I finished work I made a little progress on the lord - much of the work is actually mapping out the shape though - I tend to use a very blue mix of GreenStuff for creating the correct shape and then (as you might be able to see on the thighs of the legs) I then coat a thin layer of very yellow mixed GreenStuff to smooth out the surface.

I've dropped the height the hips sat at in to a much better position, they look too far back but have no fear - the only bit I'll be using from these will be the tiny bum plate (I'm sure that's the right term for that piece of armour!) and the rest will be bulked up massively with GreenStuff.


The vanes above the vents on the back are a little touch to show this suit might have once been an old one (in flunked by the FW Tartaros Terminator back. These little vanes will blend into the vertebrae of a spine detail running down his back.

This Lord is mean to be a proxy for Logan Grimnar who has a storm blotter and the Axe of Morkai that can count as a Frost Blade or a Power Fist so my plan is to make a big double headed chain axe and a massive power fist with a built in combo blotter to represent this. And here is the first step of the power fist, creating the shape of the glove part.

Really rough work here as I'll then smooth it all out with some more greenStuff and start building up the finger detail - the hand will be clenched as if firing from the hip with this weapon.

And here is where the 'Crusader' is at. I've been adding trim tot he edges of it at the moment - although granted it looks more like Marneus' Land Raider - as the next phase will be to add points at all the corners of this and sculpt on some chunky nuts and bolt down it's length.


The trim around the vision slit feels a bit bulky but should blend in more when I finish detailing it. I've been putting off grafting the FW World Eaters door detail onto he plastic doors for the time being though!

Thanks for looking and any and all C&C is welcome!
Dicky

[Rich 123]

Hello again,

Well I have made a little further progress on the lord in any gap I have around work (while also trying to accommodate watching the Walking Dead!).

I have done some work on his torso which is starting to shape up a bit better now.


To fit with the whole mutating through his armour there isn't a defined edge to the vertebrae running down his back. What do you think all though, should I actually re-sculpt the smoothed out edges into the proper full shape of vertebrae?

I want it to really look like there is a skeletal structure pushing up and out of his armour, unlike some of the other areas. There will be a defined join between armour and skin at his abs at the front but I've decided the back plate will blend seamlessly down into a muscled lower back.

And I've made a decent start on his weapons too.

The double headed chain axes is very WIP but I've pretty ouch finished the overall shape of his fist. Another little touch to show the age of the original suit of armour I have used the much more bulbous rounded style of powerfist that was used on the RT era terminators. The storm blotter next to it will be mounted to the underside of the fist, and none of those sissy small sized Grey Knight storm blotters - that's one of the underslug Dread storm blotters!

Thanks for looking and any C&C is welcome.
Dicky

[Catferret]

I think the vertebrae should stay smoothed into the armour. A bit of blending in the paint job from red armour to bone may do the trick nicely. If the vertebrae were fully defined it may just look like some bone ornamentation rather than being part of the guy within.

The chain axe is well beefy. Just realised it's double thickness with 2 rows of chainsword bits. Nice.

[Rich 123]

Thanks for popping by CatFerret!*

I'm glad you said that as I was feeling the same and my plan was to use a pale skin tone with a slight hint of green for this guy. For a strong contrast with the red and will blend it into the armour where sections like this meet.*

They look a little rough and ready in this massive close up but I don't think they'll need much tidying up.*

Glad you noticed the double chains, for extra choppy action! I have been thinking long and hard about heads too. I was thinking initially of a big scary daemon head, then thought I might use big Bloodletter style horns. However

However now I'm thinking I might use a normal sized head set deep into the armour surrounded by cables and such plugged it (and maybe just some tiny horns!). Does anyone have any thoughts or better suggestions?

Thanks,
Dicky

[ChrisMurray]

However now I'm thinking I might use a normal sized head set deep into the armour surrounded by cables and such plugged it (and maybe just some tiny horns!). Does anyone have any thoughts or better suggestions?

I like this idea, , when you come to paint the model you could paint a glow coming up from inside the armour to add to the sinister and chaosness of it. If you wanted to try a pre-made head with cables or maybe some inspiration this models head is quite cool and could easily be used for chaos.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhamme...-KORVYDAE.html