Where will Gotrek die?

[Urgat]

In his bed, that would be funny
Gotrek's not all that badass anyway. He's not the one who killed the vampire, neither did he kill the dragon, and the bloodthirster was a kill-steal, it took an entire army and a couple super-powerful magic weapons to get it down, and Gotrek spent half the fight knocked out, to boot, he only dealt the killing blow. Gotrek's a monster, alright, but not the unkillable warrior people tend to describe him as, which, btw, makes him that much more believable.

[Grimstonefire]

It's a real shame I think that they used the gap between Nathan and Bill to explore the distant parts of the world (araby, lustria, cathay and ind perhaps?).

What I would like to see is them write the sequel to Zombieslayer as the start of say 3 very closely connected books dealing with Gotrek's final epic death. Or write a single book that is the size of 3 books etc.

Then after that write some books dealing with what they did in the missing years. They could be chronological from Giantslayer and ending up at Orcslayer.

Speaking of G&F, the new Anthology they've released, how much of that is supposed to be considered as 'official' in the timeline of the books? I would be a bit annoyed if I bought it and it's just a random load of stories (including one about his funeral) that doesn't actually mean anything, where the authors were given a completely free reign on anything except his death. Written by so many different authors as well could be a nightmare to read. Orcslayer had to be endured as it was 'official'.

[Athlan na Dyr]

Whats the really, really powerful demon prince from 40k? I think its... Ann'grath the Unbound or somesuch? Regardless, some demon like that (or Belakor) or an Exalted Greater Demon. Hell, maybe even the Plaguefather (he's probably in the Great Book of Grudges and he hates dwarves to boot).

As to where, easy. At the end of all things, when chaos is manifesting all across the world, the Empire is in ruins and the last surviving non-chaos people are all allied and holed up in the greatest fortress of the world in the vain hope of lasting a few more days... Either that or Gotrek gets fed up of living and heads off to the realm of chaos, ala Grimnir.

[TheDarkDaff]

In his bed, that would be funny

So not a Greater Daemon of Nurgle getting him on the toilet then?

My vote would be in an old Dwarf hold up north that has become a sort of Daemon lair. Make it something the Gotrek can trace his ancestors back to.

[Poncho160]

I'm all up for a situation where for the greater good Gotrex has to die / kill himself. But becasue he cant do it himslef Felix does. If it is written well, it could be a very moving piece.

Im thinking along the lines of how Arnie has to die in Terminator 2 and John Connor lowers him into the molten metal. That could easily have come off as cheesey, but i know a load of blokes who have had to cover thier faces, when watching that! lol

[Francis]

Godslayer. Gotrek will be infused with the power of Grimnir and he will kill off Khorne and take his place as God of War and battle (thereby dying as Gotrek), only ending that makes sense by this point.

[Grimstonefire]

and take his place as God of War and beer

. Fixed that for you!

Something that has crossed my mind as I've been reading through the series that I think would be a very cunning twist would be if we found out that Gotrek's axe actually utterly destroys daemons entirely instead of just banishing them.

I.e. as daemons are a physical manifestation of thought, Gotrek is actually stopping the chaos gods from just thinking them up again somehow in the Realm of Chaos. They could think up a different bloodthirster of course, but not the same one.

That would actually give the daemons something to 'worry' about and would really annoy the gods.

It wouldn't go against any fluff we've heard, as the daemons might well believe and boast that they will be reborn but think it's strangely curious they've never met a daemon who has been banished by Gotrek...

[Drasanil]

I think the Slaanesh daemon in elfslayer makes mention of it actually. He wanted the summoning circle unbound so he wouldn't have to face Gotrek in single combat... seemed strangely worried about actually dying.

[Francis]

. Fixed that for you!

Something that has crossed my mind as I've been reading through the series that I think would be a very cunning twist would be if we found out that Gotrek's axe actually utterly destroys daemons entirely instead of just banishing them.

I.e. as daemons are a physical manifestation of thought, Gotrek is actually stopping the chaos gods from just thinking them up again somehow in the Realm of Chaos. They could think up a different bloodthirster of course, but not the same one

Thx for the fix and yes your idea would not go against any fluff, in fact it is partly supported by some of it. In the novel rogue star (40k I know but still) the rouge trader captain kills a deamon while in the warp. This releases all the souls that particular deamon has eaten and effectively kills him or atleast reduces him to the spirit he was before the great turmoil in the warp started. In Blood of Aenarion, Aenarion kills 3 out of the four greater deamons that attacks him at the Isle of the Dead utterly with no trace left of them in the warp. Only N'kari survives because he is able to latch on to the vortex that Caledor creates and feed from it for the next 6573 years. (Also the Faithweaver survives a chop, but then I am not surprised by that).

[ryng_sting]

That's new on me. I thought the Lord of Change was the first to die, and the Keeper of Secrets vanished after the Sword of Khaine 'drunk the daemon's soul'.

They don't call it the Godslayer for nowt, you know.

[yabbadabba]

Gotrek dies killing the Guardian of the Northern Chaos Gate after Felix is forever bedridden from being paralysed by a Chaos Warband raid. After fighting his way to the North, with some Chaos creatures attacking, others watching, Gotrek will confront the huge Guardian Daemon wielding a red glowing axe dripping with daemon gore, and realise he is dying. Uncaring anymore he will launch a single, blistering attack burying his axe in the Daemons head, while a single lightning blow will crush all but the last breath from Gotrek.

A glow will distract Gotrek's dying moment and in his last sight he will see Grimnir, released from his Daemonform prison, telling Gotrek that his sins are forgiven and its time for him to meet his Ancestors, proud again. Then, taking up his missing axe and reuniting it with its kin, Grimnir will charge into the Chaos Gate.

[Grimstonefire]

I like that Yabba. That would be a fitting end. As would Gotrek fighting alongside Grimnir for all eternity, but this time for fun!

[yabbadabba]

Cheers fella. Personally I think Gotrek should end up dying rather than there being any chance of him re-appearing, and he is in no way representative enough to become a Dwarven demi-deity!

However it does allow the series to continue in that a young Dwarven Priest at the Slayer Temple can has been commanded in a vision to seek out Felix before he dies and ensure that Gotrek's saga is not forgotten. With that we can have those minor Gurnisson stories that Felix never got round to noting down also told. So we get a very minor dwarven version of the Arabian Nights, including Gotrek's history told from his eyes.