[Grey Knights & Dark Eldar][1000 & 1000][Doubles Tournament]

[Wolf 11x]

40K Army: Other

I'm hoping for input on the following doubles lists for a local tournament on Saturday.

Here is what my teammate and I are thinking:

Grey Knights
Crowe
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, MC Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino with Searchlight
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, MC Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino with Searchlight
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino with Searchlight
Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo
Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo
Total - 1000

Dark Eldar
Haemonculus - Liquifier Gun
3 Wracks - Venom with 2 Splinter Cannons
5 Warriors - Blaster, Venom with 2 Splinter Cannons
5 Warriors - Blaster, Venom with 2 Splinter Cannons
5 Warriors - Blaster, Venom with 2 Splinter Cannons
5 Warriors - Blaster, Venom with 2 Splinter Cannons
Ravager - 3 Dark Lances, Flickerfield
Ravager - 3 Dark Lances, Flickerfield
Ravager - 3 Dark Lances, Flickerfield
Total - 1000

He'll be borrowing my Dark Eldar for this one. I'm familiar with their fragility, so I thought a lot of Troops would benefit the list more than Trueborn, especially given that I have DakkaDreads. Obviously, we will have a bit of trouble with KP missions.

Thoughts?

[Tordeck]

Thoughts?

i'm scared that your TO is allowing each army a full force org.

[stereynolds]

Aren't double usually restricted to 2 non Troops choices?

Either way the Dark Eldar look as most small Dark Eldar lists look. A wall of poison and lances. Grey Knights are going purifier spam. Should do fine unless you come accross 2 players playing guard Mech/Plasmacutioner/Hydra combos.

[Wolf 11x]

The TO has never run a doubles tournament. His store can accommodate ~20-24 players, but the turnout was so huge last time that he had to turn people away. The owner thinks having a doubles day will allow everyone to participate.

These are the rules posted online: 1000 pt per player, 2 force organization charts. Rules for each army do not interact with the partner's army.

Each tournament is three games that use tiered objectives. Each deployment zone type is used once.

[Sami]

Just a FYI, my local group has been doing a doubles campaign and I have been running the list below. Note our restrictions are 0-2 HQ, 1-6 Troops, 0-2 Elite, 0-2 Fast, 0-2 Heavy.

Haemonculus (Casket of Liquifier) = 60

9x Wyches (HWG, Hekatrix, Agoniser) + Raider (FF) = 208
5x Warriors (Blaster) + Venom (2x SC) = 125
5x Warriors (Blaster) + Venom (2x SC) = 125
5x Warriors (Blaster) + Venom (2x SC) = 125
5x Warriors (Blaster) + Venom (2x SC) = 125

Ravager (FF) = 115
Ravager (FF) = 115

= 998 points

Typical DE list, but it meshes well, comes in at under the points limit and sticks within the revised FoC chart. Last week my ally was another DE player who decided to copy my exact list. We ended up facing Draigowing and Tau in Spearhead/Killpoints and tabled them. Talk about hard counter :P

edit: if FoC slots aren't restricted, I would drop a Warrior/Venom to a Ravager, and use the 10 points to upgrade the Haemie to a Shattershard and give Enhanced Aethersails to the Wyches.

[stereynolds]

Typical DE list, but it meshes well, comes in at under the points limit and sticks within the revised FoC chart. Last week my ally was another DE player who decided to copy my exact list. We ended up facing Draigowing and Tau in Spearhead/Killpoints and tabled them. Talk about hard counter :P

Damn you, you smeg :P

I can confirm (as the Tau player) it was very brutal.

[lantzkev]

stereynolds what were you using by the way for that? I can't imagine having problems as a tau player with a draigowing acting as my shield!

[stereynolds]

stereynolds what were you using by the way for that? I can't imagine having problems as a tau player with a draigowing acting as my shield!

The draigowing players build sucked (5 paladins with no apothecary, 1 incinerator and no wound allocation stuff, Driago, 5 purifiers and a land raider). I field:

Cmd suit with missile Pod, Positional Relay, 1 Sheld Drone and Iridium Amrour
2x Broadsides with ASS, team leader, 2 shield drones and 1 target lock
Hammerhead, Railgun, SMS, Multi-tracker, target lock
2x TL melta suits with flamer
2x TL flamer suits with fusion gun
6 firewarriors
10 Kroot
4x Pathfinders with Devilfish, SMS, targetting array, multi-tracker

Didn't help the Deldar seized first turn, his reserves rolls were hot and mine failed even on a 2+.

Although I have come close to tabling Dark Eldar in a previous game on my own so I'm going to pin the entire thing on the Grey Knights player and his list. I think he killed 1 venom that entire game, whereas due to my poor dice rolling I killed 1 Wyche squad, reduced the other to the Hekatrix, shot down 3 Venoms, killed 2 haemonculi and killed 2 warrior squads.

So 1 on 1 I did quite well. Just a shame the Draigowing didn't pull its weight and took a poor list. :P

[lantzkev]

my only suggestion is in a doubles tournament, I'd pump up my broadside fieldings, and marker lights (which you did one of the two)
but yeah sounds like your draigowing was the weaker link out of the double.

[stereynolds]

my only suggestion is in a doubles tournament, I'd pump up my broadside fieldings, and marker lights (which you did one of the two)
but yeah sounds like your draigowing was the weaker link out of the double.

Had to keep the Hammerhead for the S6 template really but may considering investing in another broadside (only allowed 2 HS slots in our campaign) that can target another unit. Very little fat I can tri from the list at the moment at 1K I'm afraid.

[lantzkev]

rather than get the template on the hammerhead, try just getting AFB on your commander and cib. that'll mow down troops as you need and deny a cover save on top of that.

[stereynolds]

Didn't consider that...I'll point it up and have a look :P