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    raiders of the black ark 2500

    Fantasy Army: Dark Elves
    Dreadlord
    Deathmask, armour of eternal servitude, extra hand weapon, sea dragon cloak, shield

    Supreme sorceres
    Level 4, crystal of midnight, shadow

    Lokhir fellheart 250

    Master
    BSB, terrifying mak of EEE!, cloak of hag graef, heavy armour, shield, beast masters scourge

    Sorceres
    Level 2, dispel scroll, tome of furion, metal

    30 corsairs ( lokhir )
    Extra hand weapon, FC, sea serpent standard

    30 corsairs ( dreadlord, supreme sorceres )
    Extra hand weapons, FC, banner of murder

    30 corsairs ( BSB, sorceres)
    Extra hand weapon, FC, banner of eternal flame

    10 corsairs
    Hand bows, reaver, pair of hand bows

    10 corsairs
    Hand bows, reaver, pair of hand bows

    10 corsairs
    Hand bows, reaver, pair of hand bows

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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    I understand what you want to do, but you have no hard hitters in this list. everything in your list ( Barring the characters) is strength 3, Handbows are worthless, as they have a 8" range and you can't march and fire with corsairs.

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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    Agreed with Dirty Mac.

    Also, the Crystal of Midnight I'd drop in favor of something like the Seal of Ghrond.

    And you need a battle standard bearer. If you are going with horded infantry, you desperately need a battle standard to get the most out of Steadfast.

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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    There is a BSB
    I thought the crystal would be sort of cool
    Trade handbow guys for swords.thought they would be a distract/ harassment unit
    For 11 points more could drop handbow units for 2 hydras ( drop scourge and both shields )

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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    Have you had many games with dark elves?

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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    Ok, so Black Arc themed army. Thats a really cool idea, but unfortunately your list isn't very competitive.

    Dreadlord: I would drop this guy altogether as he doesn't really add that much hitting power for his points. But if you do then you should give him Armour of Darkness, Pendant of Khaleth, and Crimson Death

    Supreme Sorceress: Great choice, drop crystal of midnight, give her a sacrificial dagger, or dispel scroll, or power stone and iron curse icon

    Sorceress: She has 2 arcane items which you can't take. Drop one.

    Drop the BSB, get a cauldron of Blood. I can't emphasize this enough. Get a cauldron of blood and make it your BSB. This way you can give your corsairs Killing blow, which will make them actually good against armour. Because as it stands right now your entire army will melt to anything with a 2+ armour save or better.

    Hand bows are bad. You can march further than their range. Drop all corsairs with hand bows. If you really insist on crossbow shooting, get crossbowmen and make their models out of corsairs, at least this way you have enough range to make them useful.

    If you really want a Black Arc theme with shooting you could put 2 or 3 Reaper Bolt throwers in the list even though they are over costed and generally don't make their points back.

    You have absolutely nothing to bait/flee, or take out enemy shooting with. Get at minimum 2 units of harpies. They are both fluffy and useful. Every army needs a couple of throw away units, dark elves are no different. 2 units of Harpies, Dark Riders or Shades are mandatory in every list.

    Im not going to lie, you need 2 hydras. With this army you need something that can take a hit and hit hard in return.

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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    I was looking in 2 books for the.arcane and completely forgot.
    I did add 2 hydras the magic.items are mostly based so they copy.fellheart.
    The cauldron really doesn't fit.
    Why would I sacrifice 10 point corsairs.
    I can get bolt.throwers.in easily.
    I really want to be themed at the part were fellheart goes.to the lost city of the ancients!!!

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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    Fellheart is pretty decent now in 8th.

    Im not sure why the cauldron doesnt fit, but to each their own.

    Corsairs are still only 3 points more than a warrior, 10 points for a power die is pittens in my oppinion.

    I still think you need some chaff units.

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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    I think this is a cool idea. I played with some lord builds but never found one I thought would be competitive. I'd go with Lokir as the general.

    RTBs are awful game wise, but good fluff wise. 2-4 might be able to hurt stuff with target saturation.

    Try the BSB with Pendant, Blood armor and 2 hand weapons for theme or scourge and shield for durability.

    Handbows do suck, but can be good stand and shoot units in units of 10. Good speed bumps or redirectors for that, but terrible mainline shooting units. The RTBs could fill that role with enough of them, still a points sink though.

    You could use corsair models and shades rules as if these were the guys who sneak in during the night.

    Still need something for high T and armor. Shadow is great, but a one trick pony.

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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    i manage wellwith shadow nd metal droped a 20 man warrior block the other day with very similar builds.
    what is an RTB?
    metal for high armour always!
    the handbow units were ment to be stand and shoot speedbumps.
    all charectars lords/masters must have a terror mask and cloaks (i want three fellheart looking models theme wise.)
    thanks for the comments.

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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    Oops meant Repeater Bolt Thower, RBT.

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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    Terror masks for theme I can understand. The Deathmask is way over priced since terror changed in 8th, you might want to consider fencers blades of the ASF dagger to get dual wielding magic attacks.

    But, your characters are certainly not durable or powerful enough to take on high T characters or monsters. They are very expensive support models.

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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    To kill monsters of any.form and size I use shadow or death
    I do realize they are.very expensive ( but it is a themed.list and if I'm lucky I could.win by charging without combat then running them down that would be.funny as hell. Oh by the way that 6 and 1 you rolled reroll that 6 gets a 4 oh looks like my corsairs.ran down your deathstar unit.
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    Re: raiders of the black ark 2500

    Corsairs with dual weapons=cool
    Corsairs with handbows =

    Slavers rule= cool
    If corsairs could be skirmishers with handbows that would be awesome. Sorry off topic.

    Defeating a horde of goblins with terror and running them down is along shot but would be hilarious!

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    I've run down a massive chaos horde like that with fellheart in cirsairs off the frenzy charge!!!

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