Not matter of whom but what kills Lucius The Eternal

[Conscript]

I've actually given this some thought (YES, I DO need a life) and have come up with the following: assuming Lucius got caught in an Exterminatus - but neither those who ordered it nor those who executed it were unaware of his presence...

Then again, this IS Chaos we're dealing with. I don't really think the 'rules' would really limit Slaanesh any more than he/it wanted them to. Therefore -> even in the case outlined above, someone somewhere would probably end up becoming Lucius.

P.S. I also came up with a really excellent way of breaking the character: writing a rule that would make the 'assuming-the-new-host' something that happens within a game.

[xxRavenxx]

The problem I see with this scenario is this:

"What happens if John McClaine meets Hans Gruber and Hans Gruber and his henchmen aren't completely incompetent?" Answer: It won't happen.

Within the context of 40k, noone will EVER accidently kill Lucius. Nothing will step on him, he won't get blown up by stray explosions. He will always find a martial champion to fight, and then possess them if he loses. Why? Because that's what he does. The story is written, and it doesn't continue.

[Theocracity]

The problem I see with this scenario is this:

"What happens if John McClaine meets Hans Gruber and Hans Gruber and his henchmen aren't completely incompetent?" Answer: It won't happen.

Within the context of 40k, noone will EVER accidently kill Lucius. Nothing will step on him, he won't get blown up by stray explosions. He will always find a martial champion to fight, and then possess them if he loses. Why? Because that's what he does. The story is written, and it doesn't continue.

That is, honestly, the best answer.

[Konovalev]

Ok so what if... Trazyn the Infinite kills Lucius the Eternal?

Would Lucius possess Trazies body, who in turn possesses another necrons body? Or Would Lucius continue to possess whatever body Trazy was currently in causing a never ending game of "body tag"?

[Theocracity]

Ok so what if... Trazyn the Infinite kills Lucius the Eternal?

Would Lucius possess Trazies body, who in turn possesses another necrons body? Or Would Lucius continue to possess whatever body Trazy was currently in causing a never ending game of "body tag"?

One of them needs a body...and the other is a resurrecting robot.

I smell a sitcom!

[MyNameDidntFit]

I can just imagine the end-of-episode freeze-frames that would depict one of them coming home in some absurd/embarrassing body and then both bursting out laughing.

As far as the topic goes, other people have it pretty well covered with the "he'll die when Slaanesh stops caring".

[Jayden63]

The problem I see with this scenario is this:

"What happens if John McClaine meets Hans Gruber and Hans Gruber and his henchmen aren't completely incompetent?" Answer: It won't happen.

Within the context of 40k, noone will EVER accidently kill Lucius. Nothing will step on him, he won't get blown up by stray explosions. He will always find a martial champion to fight, and then possess them if he loses. Why? Because that's what he does. The story is written, and it doesn't continue.

This is pretty much what I was going to say. You are the champion of a real living god. Things like stepping on landmines, falling down stairs and getting stomped on by a titan just don't happen to you. You are favored, you live what some would call a charmed life.

If there was only one way through the mindfield, Lucius would walk it without knowing it was there. The iron pipe on the top stair would be perpendicular to it instead of parallel the one time Lucius decides to tread down it. Lucius would find himself between the treads of the titans boot print not under them. His personal raiding craft would somehow run out of gas just outside the planet hit by exterminatus and never made landfall.

[Grit]

another way is for the Lukas the Trickster to fight him,when Lucius kills him he stuck in a stasis field oh well.
another way is tho kill the person who just killed him.

[Theocracity]

another way is for the Lukas the Trickster to fight him,when Lucius kills him he stuck in a stasis field oh well.
another way is tho kill the person who just killed him.

Lukas is actually a great example of why having this argument doesn't make sense.

He's known as the guy who, in death, will kill anything with his stasis grenade. But how many times has he died?

Lucius will never fall into a death loophole for the same reason Lukas will never use his signature ability. And for the same reason that Commissar Yarick and Ghazzie will never succeed in killing each other. And for the same reason that the Emperor will never actually die. Their themes are iconic, representative of the moments that define 40K, and therefore completely static from a macro view.

[Grit]

Lukas is actually a great example of why having this argument doesn't make sense.

He's known as the guy who, in death, will kill anything with his stasis grenade. But how many times has he died?

Lucius will never fall into a death loophole for the same reason Lukas will never use his signature ability. And for the same reason that Commissar Yarick and Ghazzie will never succeed in killing each other. And for the same reason that the Emperor will never actually die. Their themes are iconic, representative of the moments that define 40K, and therefore completely static from a macro view.

You mean the Emperor isn't dead

[Denny]

One of them needs a body...and the other is a resurrecting robot.

I smell a sitcom!

I would SO watch that.

[Sunner]

What would happen if two people got the kill-shot at the exact same time?

[Draconis]

I've actually given this some thought (YES, I DO need a life) and have come up with the following: assuming Lucius got caught in an Exterminatus - but neither those who ordered it nor those who executed it were unaware of his presence...

Then again, this IS Chaos we're dealing with. I don't really think the 'rules' would really limit Slaanesh any more than he/it wanted them to. Therefore -> even in the case outlined above, someone somewhere would probably end up becoming Lucius.

P.S. I also came up with a really excellent way of breaking the character: writing a rule that would make the 'assuming-the-new-host' something that happens within a game.

Lucius has also been around long enough to know to not get killed accidently...

What would happen if two people got the kill-shot at the exact same time?

Oh god, we have an Agent Smith from the Matrix going on...

[Corporeal]

what happened if he was accidentally trodden on by a nurgle possesed titan?

*splat*

or maybe the titan somehow explodes.

I dunno, it's 40k. weirder stuff has happened.

[Craftworld]

The problem I see with this scenario is this:

"What happens if John McClaine meets Hans Gruber and Hans Gruber and his henchmen aren't completely incompetent?" Answer: It won't happen.

Within the context of 40k, noone will EVER accidently kill Lucius. Nothing will step on him, he won't get blown up by stray explosions. He will always find a martial champion to fight, and then possess them if he loses. Why? Because that's what he does. The story is written, and it doesn't continue.

And that's the thread. Thank you for coming out folks.

[Freman Bloodglaive]

What happens if Kharn kills Lucius?

Can you imagine the cat fight between Khorne and Slaanesh?

Perhaps Kharn would only be Lucius on weekends.

[Flikre213]

How about a tesseract labyrinth? Would Slaanesh be able to fish his
m out from there?