Empire and dragons.... ?

[Urgat]

Also take into consideration that no other dragon (that I know of) has ever allowed a human to ride it into battle

You at least got a chick riding one at FW, and a various amount of chaos lords too, whom are usually human.
But yeah, I mean, if you want dragons, you obviously go HE. Only army where you can get more than one at 2k pts.

[TheDungen]

To the one pointing out thta chaos lords ride dragons, no they dont they ride chaos dragons, and they're as much dragons as griffons are eagles or lions. While they may have had ancestors that was the creature in question they're now somethign else.

I think griffons are described as being about as smart as a white lion. A little less intelligent than an elf or a great egle (about equal) or a dragon (propably the most inteligent 'mortal' beings in warhammer)

[Dreadlordpaul]

To the one pointing out thta chaos lords ride dragons, no they dont they ride chaos dragons, and they're as much dragons as griffons are eagles or lions. While they may have had ancestors that was the creature in question they're now somethign else.

I think griffons are described as being about as smart as a white lion. A little less intelligent than an elf or a great egle (about equal) or a dragon (propably the most inteligent 'mortal' beings in warhammer)

Chaos dragons are still dragons they just have been warped by the wild energies of chaos

[Askari]

Last I heard, weren't all Chaos Dragons the descendants of Galrauch? Who is half-Greater Daemon. Which would make TheDungen's comparison the closest.

[Darnok]

But then again you would have one dragon in a WoC army at most, unless we're talking about massive games. Far from a "dragon army" really.

[EDMM]

Dragons are about as smart as people.
The ancient Dragons are powerful sorcerers on par with the elves.

[Rosstifer]

To be fair in WOC you can take Dragon Ogres if you want, and have quite alot of them*



*Yes I know they aren't anything to do with Dragons other than the name

[Dreadlordpaul]

Last I heard, weren't all Chaos Dragons the descendants of Galrauch? Who is half-Greater Daemon. Which would make TheDungen's comparison the closest.

Galrauch is not half greater daemon hes just possessed by one

[TheDungen]

So he's as much a dragon as a demonhost is a human?

[Urgat]

No because he retains his will most of the time. And the other chaos dragons don't have demons within them, they're just mutated. A chaos dragon is a dragon, just like a marauder with a third arm is still human.

[TheDungen]

The dragos in the sundering dont even seem to think that the black dragons of the druchii are real dragons so I dont think they'd agree with you

[Urgat]

The High Elves don't seem to think the Dark Elves are real elves either, I wonder where the dragons could have gotten that way of thinking, if that's the case (I remember no fluff like that, but I'm not particularly well versed in HE fluff). Well, my point: the fact HE dragons are just the same kind of stuck up and arrogant arses as their riders is irrelevant to the nature of chaos (or black) dragons. I had a dream that some day, one black dragon will show up with his moving speech, and the black dragons will earn their rights as proper dragons at last!

[Brotheroracle]

The High Elves don't seem to think the Dark Elves are real elves either, I wonder where the dragons could have gotten that way of thinking, if that's the case (I remember no fluff like that, but I'm not particularly well versed in HE fluff). Well, my point: the fact HE dragons are just the same kind of stuck up and arrogant arses as their riders is irrelevant to the nature of chaos (or black) dragons. I had a dream that some day, one black dragon will show up with his moving speech, and the black dragons will earn their rights as proper dragons at last!

Black (dragon) power!

[TheDungen]

You have a dream? I really dont think the peoblem is the colour of the blakc dragons scales but the fact that they've been corrupted physically and mentaly by magic. Chaos dragosn even worse.

And you cant judge dragonkind by the actions of black and chaos dragons. Cause they're diffrent. That a chaos dragon can decide to have a (chaos) human riding it doesnt mean that a real dragon would ever do that.

[Urgat]

I'm going to pretend you didn't take my post literally and are just pulling my leg. Yep, let's do that.

[TheDungen]

A bit of both actually