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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

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    Oh no, did it take the search function with it? You could have just read all the other similar threads....
    I know this seems to be 'response of the month' lately, as soon as anyone posts any kind of thread, but honestly, I'd like you to use the search function and find something that would meet the OPs requirements.

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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    I'd move to Flames of War, keep playing old GW systems, and never look back.
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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    It would be a sad day mainly for all the great people I know that work for GW.
    I would still keep playing with what I have, just the rules wouldn't be updated and there would be some Fan support but nothing "new".

    For me GW games provide something different from the other historical games I play along with other games such as Malifaux (still only played a couple of games but they were fun and the figures look great).

    But this won't happen..............

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    I'd spend more money on Warmachine/Hordes and be otherwise unaffected.
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    I'd carry on. I have a ton of stuff still to paint. I can't see ebay supplies drying up anytime soon (76,842 Warhammer products for sale on ebay UK as I type this). I have rules, places to play and game partners. I'd play a little less, as the local store is convenient for me, but at current rate I've about 5 years worth of painting outstanding. It would be sad: I play other games systems too but none of them are as much fun. But, as you say, hypothetical...
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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    Quote Originally Posted by Tayrod View Post
    What would you do (buy) if GW closed down, and stopped producing miniatures?
    Run to my desk, sculpt up every mini for every specialist game (and some core) that I ever wanted, and sell the expletive out of them.
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    I'd rejoice that my bank balance was now GW free and build, paint and enjoy the models I have in bucketloads.

    I'd never read the internet forums ever again so I don't have to see any one attempting to "balance" the game themselves.

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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    Quote Originally Posted by Verm1s View Post
    Run to my desk, sculpt up every mini for every specialist game (and some core) that I ever wanted, and sell the expletive out of them.
    What is keeping you from doing that now?
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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    1. win the lottery, several times
    2. buy all of GW IPs
    3. close all GW stores, making it online ordering only
    4. cut prices accordingly
    4. dust off all the old school metal molds
    5. start casting in white metal again, bringing back long OOP models people still want. opening models on demand factory, full back catalog.

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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    What is keeping you from doing that now?

    Probably the inevitable "Cease and Desist" when it comes to selling them... Of course he could make them for his own use but given the rather lengthy legal case currently ongoing in the states regarding Chapterhouse, unless he made them very generic I think he could expect GW to follow the same route in this case too and then it's down to whether he's got the time, money (Unless he's lucky enough to get free representation like CHS) and inclination to fight it.
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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    Quote Originally Posted by simonr1978 View Post
    Probably the inevitable "Cease and Desist" when it comes to selling them... Of course he could make them for his own use but given the rather lengthy legal case currently ongoing in the states regarding Chapterhouse, unless he made them very generic I think he could expect GW to follow the same route in this case too and then it's down to whether he's got the time, money (Unless he's lucky enough to get free representation like CHS) and inclination to fight it.
    There are so many Blood Bowl Fantasy Football miniatures available right now from alternative producers it's not even funny. And they seem to be able to sell them without problem.
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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    Sell my stuff and quit wargaming. Find something else to take up my spare time.
    Plastic is great. Light, easy to convert, doesn't chip the paint off when you bump the model...

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    Yes but he said to do so for every specialist game, so that's including Epic, BFG, Inquisitor. Whilst you could make generic science fiction spaceships without problem to make them recognisable as BFG ship classes without risking a C&D from GW Legal might be a bit more tricky. With Epic, it's going to be even more difficult since even at 6mm (Or whatever Epic is) a tank/trooper/titan that isn't completely generic and is recognisable is also likely to attract unwanted attention from GW legal, ditto Inquisitor. The same is broadly true to a greater or lesser degree with the gangs and warbands of Necromunda and Mordheim, although in those cases many of them are already pretty generic, but for example Spyrers or Enforcers are a bit more GW specific. Of course you can keep everything generic, but then that would presumably defeat the object of making them for the Specialist games and, again presumably, recognisable as the various established factions.

    Even if you manage to keep it legal it wont necessarily stop GW from sending a C&D or if you ignore it taking further action, then it's a matter of if you have the funds to fight it.
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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    Quote Originally Posted by simonr1978 View Post
    ...a model that isn't completely generic and is recognisable is also likely to attract unwanted attention from GW legal, ditto Inquisitor.
    I would argue that Inquisitor is exactly the kind of place where you should be exploring things that aren't normal fare.

    The characters should conform to the 41st millennium's gothic aesthetic certainly, but it's a game which was specifically put together to explore a side of the 41st Millennium that wasn't Dire Avengers and Dreadnoughts. The majority of GW's 54mm Inquisitor range did not have any 28mm equivalent at the time of release. (They have however made several 28mm equivalents since).

    As such, it would be very easy to produce 54mm models perfectly suited for Inquisitor without GW being able to do a thing about it - GW don't own all things gothic science fantasy.
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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    Hypothetical catastrophe? I think you mean hypothetical opportunity

    I hardly buy anything from GW nowadays anyway, so my spending or playing wouldnt change.

    I would try to get all the people previously hooked on GW on other games, although realistically, they'd still be able to play the same games with the same models if they'd want to.


    I'd figure and estimate which models would increase in value well, and which would flop. I'd invest a relatively large amount of money in the ones I think will go up in price. Thats about it.
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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    Oh well....not a problem really. I have not bought any GW products since GW closed it's only company store within 300 plus miles. I did buy some second hand GW stuff online a couple of years ago.

    Unlike many/most of the people on Warseer.....I didn't get into wargaming because of anything GW made published or sold. Not rules minies, accessories etc. do I need from GW anymore.

    There are hundreds of plastic and thousands of metal minies/models....historical and fantasy AND scifi NOT made by GW. My opponents and I don't need GW products.
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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    Move on to scale models and focus on improving painting, maybe start sculpting again.

    No other wargame has the expansive background or high-quality multipart plastics that GW has.

    Or why not try historical wargaming?
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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    Keep playing second edition 40k, with all the miniatures I already have (that they stopped making years ago anyway)...so I guess Id just buy vallejo paints and continue on my merry path.

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    Re: Hypothetical catastrophe

    Why should GW disappearing have any effect on whether or not you continue to play 40k, Warhammer, Lord of the Rings or any other game? The Specialist Games still seem to have plenty of players, despite being in basically the same situation.

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    Warmaster and Epic are the only GW games I play now.
    I've got enough unpainted Warmaster and Epic armies to keep me going for the next 10 years......

    After that, just go with the hundreds of other figure manufacturors who are out there doing historical stuff e.g. Foundry ACW, Adler Naps etc etc.

    It would be a shame but that is all it would be for me anyway.

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