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    So the Palanquin, a small pile of Nurglings that moves at walking speed, suddenly gets impact hits? Colour me dubious.
    Note that the Slaanesh and Tzeentch mounts aren't monstrous.

    Sounds like wishlisting from someone who doesn't actually know the current rules.
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    imagine nurgle knights chargin down the table all seated in palanquins. now that would be impressive..

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    ... but very, very slow.


    Anyways, 2-wound monstrous cavalry is from the old way of doing it, where being m.cav gave the rider +1 T and +1 W. The current way of handling them is same wounds as the beast and same Toughness as the rider. So the old Bloodcrushers and Pegasus Knights are T4 and W2, but if they were introduced today they would almost certainly have been T3 W3, like the Demigriffon Knights.
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    Wouldn't Chaos Knights be T4 W3 since the Chosen himself would be T4. Or am I missing something?


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    Re: Warriors of Chaos summary

    Bloodcrushers are the Daemonic cavalry ridden by Bloodletters (T3). Should there happen to be Chaos Knights on Juggers, they would be T4 W3, much like the Ogre monstrous cavalry.
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    Re: Warriors of Chaos summary

    Quote Originally Posted by Avian View Post
    So the Palanquin, a small pile of Nurglings that moves at walking speed, suddenly gets impact hits? Colour me dubious.
    Note that the Slaanesh and Tzeentch mounts aren't monstrous.

    Sounds like wishlisting from someone who doesn't actually know the current rules.
    He said mount specific like the characters, not the characters mounts. Geez Avian, sometimes, I swear...

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    He said mount specific like the characters, not the characters mounts. Geez Avian, sometimes, I swear...
    Eh?

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    I don't assume you've heard anything about whether these "chosen knights" are simply riding daemonic steeds (more likely), or if they're mounted on god-appropriate mounts (less likely, but probably cooler), have you TDG?
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    God specific mounts, much as characters can take.
    What God-specific mounts can characters take?
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    Re: Warriors of Chaos summary

    Maybe they do not get Palanquins. While being absolutely incredibly (my heart weeps pus at the thought alone!), I find it unlikely. While Rotbeasts are WF made, I could imagine something else, like the Plague Riders (not sure on the English name), the Plaguebearers riding on Slime Beasts from the Daemonic Legion. Or something new, you never know.

    Slaanesh mounts have Light Cavalry even now, and Flying Disc circus working like Pegasus Knights as flying cavalry with Vanguard seems plausible as well.

    2 wounds seem fitting, given that they will not only have higher T than Demigryphs, but besides their 1+ save they also have their Marks and not to mention the vastly improved abilities of the rider.

    I'm believing theDarkGeneral, first because he doesn't mention absolutely unbelievable stuff and second, because we flamed more than enough rumour mongers out of this section already. Khorne doesn't need another skull filled with knowledge of things yet to come.

    @Bloodcrushers: The Bloodletter has S6/T4, so rather Herald stats than Core Bloodletter stats.
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    So the Palanquin, a small pile of Nurglings that moves at walking speed, suddenly gets impact hits? Colour me dubious.
    The M4 Corpsecart is pulled by 4 Zombies and gets impact hits... So it wouldn't be unheard of...
    But as always with rumours you have to take it with a grain of salt of course.
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    The main reason I was asking is that even though the idea seems really cool (hells, I even have my own unit of brass knights, converted from bloodcrushers and chaos knights), in terms of model releases, it seems hard to pull off. Either they publish finecast boxes of each (doubtful. GW prefers to have multipurpose plastic kits for new troops releases), or they'll need some niche plastic kits covering each allegiance. I do not realistically see how they could make a kit to allow you to make juggernauts, steeds of slaanesh, screamers or disks of tzeentch and whatever it is they give to nurgle (palanquins don't seem logical, either). I doubt we will see that, to be honest, as sad as it makes me to say it.
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    2 wounds could make sense for monstrous cavalry on cavalry bases, like for exemple the current mount of demonettes if they were to be upgraded into monstrous beast.

    I could imagine a slanesh fast cav with an armor save of 4+ or maybe 3+, and 2 wounds each. With stomp and 2 wounds, an small unit of 5 could be similar to 10 wolf riders in number of wounds and attacks.

    Jugger riding knight however would merit to have 3W and a heavy armor save (2+ or even 1+), being the first true MC and an iconic unit for chaos, and the fact that they are on larger base.

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    beast of nurgle used to be the dedicated demonic mount for nurgle champions. 6ed book removed that option. while palanquins are cool they really aren't cavalry mounts. they are an upgrade for the foot slogging champion and are listed as infantry in the bestiary too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morkash View Post
    Maybe they do not get Palanquins. While being absolutely incredibly (my heart weeps pus at the thought alone!), I find it unlikely. While Rotbeasts are WF made, I could imagine something else, like the Plague Riders (not sure on the English name), the Plaguebearers riding on Slime Beasts from the Daemonic Legion. Or something new, you never know.
    Forgeworld also have Plague Steeds & Riders as demonic frogs with Plaguebearers riding them, we need to think of another beast and name lol.

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    Re: Warriors of Chaos summary

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    Eh?



    What God-specific mounts can characters take?
    That is assuming that nurgle don't get a new one, maybe one that moves faster!

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    That is assuming that nurgle don't get a new one, maybe one that moves faster!
    That's guesswork, at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avian View Post
    That's guesswork, at best.
    So i s assuming they will be riding throne pulled by nurglings

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    When I read rumours, I use Occam's Razor a lot.
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    Re: Warriors of Chaos summary

    Quote Originally Posted by Avian View Post
    When I read rumours, I use Occam's Razor a lot.
    Making you Strength 7...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avian View Post
    When I read rumours, I use Occam's Razor a lot.
    You're definitely in the minority Occam's Duct Tape seems to be rumour-monger 101.

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    After what we got with empire, I simply cannot believe any rules rumors at this point.

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