Warriors of Chaos summary

[Confessor_Atol]

This.......

I'm believing theDarkGeneral, first because he doesn't mention absolutely unbelievable stuff and second, because we flamed more than enough rumor mongers out of this section already. Khorne doesn't need another skull filled with knowledge of things yet to come.

Flaming rumor mongers is getting as common as whining about a new book before it comes out. For somone who is a prolific a poster as Avian, I'd think he'd have more tact.... at least more courtesy.

Claiming that they don't know the rules is pretty low. Clearly Avian forgot about Plague Riders from just one edition ago??

Again I know this guy, he's been in white dwarf, we've attended GTs together.

[Morkash]

Could you specify that, Gradek?
If I think the same way I think you think (How come you think I study Psychology? ), I'd rather say the opposite: The rumours say monstrous cavalry, which is clearly a common trend, as seen with the Demigryphs. The Empire also got 2 unexpected chariots with the Luminark and Hurricanum plus Witch Hunters, so getting something new isn't out of place either.

[Urgat]

Eh?



What God-specific mounts can characters take?

Maybe they can rider beasts of Nurgle, for all we know. That would be... her... amusing.

[Gradek]

Could you specify that, Gradek?
If I think the same way I think you think (How come you think I study Psychology? ), I'd rather say the opposite: The rumours say monstrous cavalry, which is clearly a common trend, as seen with the Demigryphs. The Empire also got 2 unexpected chariots with the Luminark and Hurricanum plus Witch Hunters, so getting something new isn't out of place either.

It isn't the rumor of monstrous cav that's questionable, it is the suggestion of rules/stalines. We saw none of those with empire until less than a week before the release. I don't see why we would get chaos info this far in advance based on the recent GW rumor crackdown. I also believe we will get new stuff, as that has been standard with every 8th book, I just doubt the rumors that claim to know what it is and the rules with it at this time.

[javgoro]

Could you specify that, Gradek?
If I think the same way I think you think (How come you think I study Psychology? ), I'd rather say the opposite: The rumours say monstrous cavalry, which is clearly a common trend, as seen with the Demigryphs. The Empire also got 2 unexpected chariots with the Luminark and Hurricanum plus Witch Hunters, so getting something new isn't out of place either.

As I mentioned upthread, I do believe that The Dark General's source might be on to something (chosen knights in monstrous mounts). I however find it very very unlikely that weŽll see them for all gods, as that is a nightmare to do from a models/releases point of view, unless they decide to only get one type out, and let people bother with the rest later, or they make a multi-god kit, which would pretty much rule out the possibility of seeing juggernauts, steeds, etc. in it at the same time.

[theDarkGeneral]

Thank you Frank aka Confessor Atol! No I wasn't referring to Palaquins, but something similar to Beasts of Nurgle of old. Play test rules get leaked...that's all I need to say.

[logan054]

When I read rumours, I use Occam's Razor a lot.

so your prone to miscasts? or is that finecast?

Thank you Frank aka Confessor Atol! No I wasn't referring to Palaquins, but something similar to Beasts of Nurgle of old. Play test rules get leaked...that's all I need to say.

First born on offer here

[Avian]

Flaming rumor mongers is getting as common as whining about a new book before it comes out. For somone who is a prolific a poster as Avian, I'd think he'd have more tact.... at least more courtesy.

It's not flaming to be skeptical. For the last half-dozen army books that have come out, every single rules rumour we have had more than a few weeks in advance has been made up. Every single one. Less than a month ago we had extensive rules rumours about the WoC and what were they? Made up. Lies. Fabrication. When I see rumours posted, I do a quick search for the poster's previous rumours and if they turn out to have less accuracy than I'd expect from my grandmother or the dog, I reserve the right to be skeptical.

Every single time a book comes out, months or years before the release, we have someone lying and making stuff up for their own amusement. I say I am skeptical and every single time some squirrel comes and says that I shouldn't say that. Every single time I am proven right. Must I keep doing this? Did people not learn when they didn't get their Empire Halflings, War Wagons and Nuln Siege Cannons?

Stuff doesn't get leaked anymore. Not like it did five years ago. They don't have a pile of external play testers who are happy to relay everything they get in dribs and drabs to people they know will post it on the Internets. And they don't consult some random truck driver from New Jersey on the development of the latest army project.

Get real.

Please.

I seriously consider writing an article on how to spot made-up rumours. Even if the people who enjoy spreading falsehoods read it and adapt, at least we will have less daft ones.

[Iniesta]

Just to add to avians observations, needless probably but anyhow. Seems like there is a distinct trend that rumors are kept a better and better secret for each new release in 8.th? With the first books one knew a lot more than now with empire. It wasnt the enormous difference from before, most were known weeks ahead. In empire there was almost no hard rumors at all that matched the book released ahead in time. Seems GW are following these forums and tightening the flow of info when and where needed, and progressively better(?). Cant be coincidence? :-)

[Deaf Paradox]

Blame the hobbit for the spread of false rumours, people are pulling their teeth out until things go back to normal. If there ever do :-S.

[Raffazza]

The exception is the likes of Harry, where a very large number of VC rumours were correct a long time ahead.

[SkawtheFalconer]

Hastings was also reliable, so Im hopeful a lot of what he said (which is in first post in this thread) turns out to be true.

[decker_cky]

Plagueriders were in the SoC daemonic legion list but didn't make the daemon book. Could be that (basically riders on beasts of nurgle). Makes more sense than units of palanquins, and assuming they drop to 3 wounds, not out of line with other mounts.

[Confessor_Atol]

It's not flaming to be skeptical. For the last half-dozen army books that have come out, every single rules rumour we have had more than a few weeks in advance has been made up. Every single one. Less than a month ago we had extensive rules rumours about the WoC and what were they? Made up. Lies. Fabrication. When I see rumours posted, I do a quick search for the poster's previous rumours and if they turn out to have less accuracy than I'd expect from my grandmother or the dog, I reserve the right to be skeptical.

Every single time a book comes out, months or years before the release, we have someone lying and making stuff up for their own amusement. I say I am skeptical and every single time some squirrel comes and says that I shouldn't say that. Every single time I am proven right. Must I keep doing this? Did people not learn when they didn't get their Empire Halflings, War Wagons and Nuln Siege Cannons?

Stuff doesn't get leaked anymore. Not like it did five years ago. They don't have a pile of external play testers who are happy to relay everything they get in dribs and drabs to people they know will post it on the Internets. And they don't consult some random truck driver from New Jersey on the development of the latest army project.

Get real.

Please.

I seriously consider writing an article on how to spot made-up rumours. Even if the people who enjoy spreading falsehoods read it and adapt, at least we will have less daft ones.

It's one thing to be skeptical, I totally get that. If you left it at "that doesn't sound likely" or "I doubt that" I wouldn't be up in arms about this. But instead you call people compulsive liers who don't know the rules. You're smart enough to see the difference between the two. I know we're all frusterated about the the crappy leaks we've been getting. It sucks, but like I said earlier not everyone is out to mislead the community. Don't be rude.

[Valaraukar]

Well said that man.

Thanks to Avians "rules" my confirmations have been left out of this thread all together. I know nothing of rules but I do know a good number of the models and what they look like but c'est la vie. I don't want to go into specifics as don't wish to get anyone into trouble but there WILL be a distinct monstrous theme to both the war altar and chariot (optional) which are two of the four releases I know about along with Dragon Ogres and everyones favourite Troll mostly all I know about these is they're both BIG, make of that what you will given my no doubt 'dubious' record according to some

[logan054]

All I can say is if I can jugger pulling my chariots, I will be a happy boy

[Valaraukar]

You may not be so happy then, but I've heard rumours of a model for another chaos armybooks chariot for another god which may or may not give you some hope for easy conversions in the future if this is not done in isolation, also given the monstrous option for this chariot converting it to take a jugger should be a lot easier.

[logan054]

Are we even talking daemons pulling chariots or things like spawn/some random monster?

[Valaraukar]

Something new I believe and not daemonic think one of the many twisted things that live in the wastes we are always hearing about.

[logan054]

So its some fargone forsaken pulling a chariot then? or just some big mutant horse? gotta say some gibbering monsters sounds sound half as awesome as a jugger pulling a chariot, guess that will be no daemon riding knights either my poor lord on jugger, he really needed some friends as well