Warriors of Chaos summary

[javgoro]

Wasn't Archaon on foot a Games Day model only though, if thats the case then don't expect the same treatment.

There was also a Valten, Exalted of Sigmar on foot as a GD limited model. Valten did have 3 non-limited models, but the one on foot was Valten as a young son of a blacksmith, and Archaon has had nothing of the sort. The idea that we'll get three different Archaons is very much doubtful, specially given how Dorghar is the Steed of the Apocalypse, and thus one of the treasures of chaos he was supposed to gather to become the Everchosen.

[Grimmeth]

There was an Archaon on foot:

http://www.solegends.com/citle/citle...haon/index.htm

The two GamesDay models (Archaon and Valten) were designed to look like they were having a fight with each other.

IIRC back in the day you could kill Dorghar (as it was a seperate monstrous mount) and force Archaon to wander around on foot.

[phreak0]

I actually bought like four of the unmounted archaon model in store (stockholm), they had a bunch on the chaos shelf. so he couldnt have been all that limited. i also bought the standing chaos sorcerer version which was some kind of special release only supposedly (a version of the crouching one that existed at the same time).
this one
http://www.solegends.com/citle/citle...aoss/index.htm

[Morkash]

Well, Archaon on foot is easily recognizable as Limited Miniature - he was sold in a Games Day blister instead of the usual one. I bought mine in a store around a year ago as well, though it was the only one left. He is a limited model for sure, but being available at all the various Games Days makes him much more available than, say, Kordel Shorgaar.

On the rumour of Archaon being able to be on foot: I find it hard to imagine, since Dorghar is regarded as one of the six treasures of Chaos. It would be possible of course, but I think it's unlikely.

[Gromdal]

Good update and thanks for warning us from the probable liars. For those of us that havent got a good idea when rumours etc are released its a good way to avoid disapointmet.

[phreak0]

Well, Archaon on foot is easily recognizable as Limited Miniature - he was sold in a Games Day blister instead of the usual one. I bought mine in a store around a year ago as well, though it was the only one left. He is a limited model for sure, but being available at all the various Games Days makes him much more available than, say, Kordel Shorgaar.

On the rumour of Archaon being able to be on foot: I find it hard to imagine, since Dorghar is regarded as one of the six treasures of Chaos. It would be possible of course, but I think it's unlikely.

well i actually bought mine in a GW store in ordinary fantasy packing....

[Avian]

Note that rumours about multiple versions of Archaon were made up surfaced the last time the book was redone as well.

[Petey]

It's not flaming to be skeptical. For the last half-dozen army books that have come out, every single rules rumour we have had more than a few weeks in advance has been made up. Every single one. Less than a month ago we had extensive rules rumours about the WoC and what were they? Made up. Lies. Fabrication. When I see rumours posted, I do a quick search for the poster's previous rumours and if they turn out to have less accuracy than I'd expect from my grandmother or the dog, I reserve the right to be skeptical.

Every single time a book comes out, months or years before the release, we have someone lying and making stuff up for their own amusement. I say I am skeptical and every single time some squirrel comes and says that I shouldn't say that. Every single time I am proven right. Must I keep doing this? Did people not learn when they didn't get their Empire Halflings, War Wagons and Nuln Siege Cannons?

Stuff doesn't get leaked anymore. Not like it did five years ago. They don't have a pile of external play testers who are happy to relay everything they get in dribs and drabs to people they know will post it on the Internets. And they don't consult some random truck driver from New Jersey on the development of the latest army project.

Get real.

Please.

I seriously consider writing an article on how to spot made-up rumours. Even if the people who enjoy spreading falsehoods read it and adapt, at least we will have less daft ones.

While I agree with the statement that we don't get rules leaked like we used to, I kind of have issue with us not getting halflings and warwagons. If someone saw that the hot pot was being rereleased for empire it isn't a stretch for them to think that it'll have rules attached to it. As it so happened we get it as a "vanity skin" for a mortar, and honestly when I saw that they suggested that, I looked for my old halfling scouts to use as huntsmen in the new book. As for warwagons, we did get 3 of them, in the form of hurricanium, Lazor, and griffon altar, each is on a giantwagon. If you saw the kit on a sprue without any information about it other than you see whacky bits, horses and a wagon, you might make assumptions about what was to come.

I hope we do start to get rules again (though I think it'll be years before that happens again), but we did kind of get some of the miniatures rumored.

[Avian]

And the big Nuln Siege Cannon? Someone saw the new plastic Engineer and thought it was something else?

[brassangel]

I agree with much of what Avian is saying. I used to get fed solid-gold, and almost always 100% accurate rumors. Right up until somewhere between Grey Knights and Necrons or so, then it got muddy, and then just stopped. The guy I used to talk to barely even responds to my non-GW related comments anymore.

I knew about the Tervigon in advance, I guess, but the bag and the cat, etc.

I'm grateful for what we do get, and this "Hobbit Law" has basically made every release far more exciting for me. It sucked a little of the flavor away when I knew about the Valkyrie more than a year out, for example.

[Beastlord]

I'm looking forward to this release - really hoping they make the warriors a bit more chaotic and fun...
As an aside it's amazing how upset some people get at the idea of rumours about little toy soldiers not being 100% accurate. Does it matter? Gives people something to discuss and, if you're so emotionally involved in Warhammer that you fly into an apoplexy when you find out you aren't getting the model you were told was coming, maybe you should re-examine your life? Seriously, the abuse is unnecessary - it's a game, not the intelligence service.....

[strewart]

There was an Archaon on foot:

http://www.solegends.com/citle/citle...haon/index.htm

The two GamesDay models (Archaon and Valten) were designed to look like they were having a fight with each other.

IIRC back in the day you could kill Dorghar (as it was a seperate monstrous mount) and force Archaon to wander around on foot.

That Archaon model looks very cool! I've not seen it before. Going to have to try to grab myself one on ebay I think.

GW has started providing more varied mount options for some special characters, so I wouldn't be too surprised if Archaon got a couple of options. I don't see the point in giving him the choice of a normal horse vs his daemonic steed really, but thanks for the rumours anyway!

[theDarkGeneral]

Not sure about re-surfacing, as I don't recall back that far for simple rumors. I can only assume thart if such a version(s) of Archaon is recreated, perhaps it's to go the route of Mannfred VonCarstien? Three versions of Archaon during his journeys to become the Ever Chosen One? I don't know all that, just posting what i've heard. Of course some birds prefer to be over analytical about such things, and spend too much time over examining such things. Boredom must be tough...

[logan054]

Could be like the emperors champion, new model that looks much better than the limited edition version.

[MyNameDidntFit]

On the rumour of Archaon being able to be on foot: I find it hard to imagine, since Dorghar is regarded as one of the six treasures of Chaos. It would be possible of course, but I think it's unlikely.

Well, being that Storm of Chaos sees Dorghar killed it's possible they'll do it. But still unlikely.

That Archaon model looks very cool! I've not seen it before. Going to have to try to grab myself one on ebay I think.

It really is an awesome model. I've got one that came in an army I eBay'd and I use him as a Chaos Lord whenever I take one.

[Avian]

Storm of Chaos has been edited out of existence.

[Satan]

Storm of Chaos has been edited out of existence.

Only the detailed events of the ending themselves. The other stuff's all over the BL books, the Swords of the Emperor in particular.

[Sir_Glonojad]

Aren't there references to SoC in the Vampire Counts' book? I don't have one on hand, unfortunately...

On the other hand, timeline in the Empire book does end with a "the storm is coming" entry about Chaos hordes amassing in the north...

[Azrothan]

Perhaps they'll redo SoC and re-release Be'lakor, Valten, Teutogen Guard, Goblin Hewer, Doom Seekers, etc, etc. Some of the best models from GW, but now not even touched with a stick. :\

[Satan]

Aren't there references to SoC in the Vampire Counts' book? I don't have one on hand, unfortunately...

On the other hand, timeline in the Empire book does end with a "the storm is coming" entry about Chaos hordes amassing in the north...

Whilst these books, for example, take place after the SoC: http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-prod...e-emperor.html