Horde formation

[Ville]

With the previous book, I used Ghoul hordes all the time.

Lately, I've been experimenting with my Zombiestar: one hundred Zombies in 10x10 formation, supported with all kinds of buffs and other tricks. So far it has been unstoppable, but it also hasn't encountered anything tougher than basic Empire troops.

[Gharnukk]

Same here.

[Lord Inquisitor]

I rarely see an army that doesn't have at least one horde. I myself will typically run at least one horde, for daemons a horde of lesser daemons, for undead everything in hordes except Mage bunkers at the back, empire everything in hordes (last game I ran a horde of 30 inner circle knights! ). The only army I don't regularly run hordes is ogres. Even then I've done it a few times.

It's extremely rare that I see opponents who do not have at least one unit in horse formation.

[Mr Ogre]

Always field my Ogres in a horde. It's fantastic for Monstrous Infantry, as few units remain steadfast for long in the face of that many attacks!

For lighter troops it seems to be 50/50. Frenzied stuff always shows up in Horde, as does stuff with Hatred. But you more bog standard unit tends to wind up going for Steadfast (which is great. Until I shred your ranks, drop your general and pinch your BSB!)

[danny-d-b]

It's extremely rare that I see opponents who do not have at least one unit in horse formation.

Horse formation- that sounds painfull

my halbader block with witch hunter, warrior priest, BSB, and level 4 light wizzard spaming pha's and timewarp is feard at my local club- and I've still got to buy, build and use my celesteral chariot

[BlackPawl]

I use horde formation very often. Slaves with spears, Ratogres Horde, Stormvernin or Plague Monks etc. works good for Skaven.

And sometime a horde of White Lions is very effective ...

[The bearded one]

Every. single. game.

My dwarf have a horde of warriors, my skaven a horde of stormvermin, my lizardmen a horde of templeguard (26 with slann, about the bare minimum you can get away with ). In the majority of games my opponent has at least one horde too. Ghoul hordes, graveguard hordes, halbedier hordes, hammerer hordes, spearelf hordes, white lion hordes, ogre hordes, you name it.

[Warlord Ghazak Gazhkull]

Most of my games I field a horde from 50-100 night goblins

[Dreadlordpaul]

I only take a horde with my warriors if im taking wulfrik and even then its just 35 marauders with MoK Flails and full command

[Jind_Singh]

I play Orcs & Goblins (well goblins) and now Empire - and I haven't had reason to run hordes. I would run hordes for:

Empire Greatswords
Vampire Graveguard
Tomb King Tombguard
Daemon bloodletters
High Elf Spears
High Elf White Lions

Anything else I don't bother. The main reason I don't like hordes:

1) Deployment - they have a huge footprint and make the deployment zone cramped
2) They move like a barge - even a basic wheel eats up half their move - and they get trapped by other units, terrian, etc - very hard to adjust
3) BIG thing for me - the enemy unit in combat. If you're going to beat them you beat them without the extra attacks anyway. If your going to lose to them you STILL lose to them even with the extra attacks! So very rarely would the extra attacks come in handy!
4) Most times I find that the other players don't run horde - so basically only 7-8 models get to attack in the 1st rank - so I lose out on 3-2 models per rank anway - what a waste!
5) Steadfast - either you lose yours fast OR the enemy keeps their steadfast for much longer - so hard to break lines


I don't like hordes

[vinush]

Hordes of greatswords would cost soooo much to buy though. At £25 a box you're looking at dropping around £100+ for a decent horde of them.

THE \/ince

[Askari]

Greatswords prices are fine... if you get them as part of the Battalion with 25% off, or on their own at 35% off.

Yeah, I run them in horde, as well as Vampire Grave Guard. Halberdiers and Ghouls can get horded, dependant on enemy (yes vs. Goblins and Skavenslaves, no vs. Warriors of Chaos...)

[decker_cky]

Hordes are great for things that you use to win combats, but are cheap enough to have large units. Cheap stuff that's intended just to hold gets done 5 wide. It's more the units which hit relatively hard in the 6-12 pt range that tend to be ideal horde units. Generally, it's on units at least S4.

Great weapon marauders, empire halberdiers, bloodletters, gors with the beast banner, bestigors, greatswords, stormvermin, graveguard, dwarf warriors w/ GW, etc..

White lions are on the high end of the range, being ASF and stubborn, so not worrying about ranks.

However, the reason you haven't seen too many hordes is that you're playing smaller games. At 2000 pts, it's limited to 5-7 pt units you can afford in those numbers. Stormvermin, halberdiers, marauders with GW, etc.. If those units aren't popular, then hordes will be rare. At 2500 pts, you can fit hordes into a lot more armies.

[althathir]

@Jind_Singh and everyone else - What do you see as the advantages of hording TK TombGuard? I'm just getting back into warhammer, and the're the fraction I like, but their community seems really down on.... well everything (though other players seem to think their solid, and I'm getting sick of the i win eighty percent of my games but the books a failure posts ). I was planning on running Tomb Guard, but more traditionally (I think they're more of a dangerous tarpit, then a deathstar if that makes any sense?)

[DaemonReign]

We normally play 4k+ sized games so yeah, we use them.

[Leogun_91]

I do it with goblins and with arrer boyz.

I have also bought (but not painted) 60 warhounds to play as an ineffective but fun horde formation (mainly due to my slight dislike of marauders).

[pluch87]

I horde my 50 night goblins with spear and shield. Extra rank of attacks, gobbos need it!

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[Crovax20]

I usually have some sort of horde in my Night goblin army. In my tombkings I haven't really ran a horde as of yet.

[Wildchild200]

I use a horde of 100 zombies, thats always fun. And i am currently building up two hordes of 50 skeletons.
For my High Elves I sometimes use a horde of 50 Sea Guard. 35 Bow shots and 51 ASF Spear attacks is quite nasty. haha

[Mr Ogre]

I like Skellie hordes! Got two of 50, all armed with Spears. When your troops are poop, might as well squeeze out every attack you can! Plus, a spell here, spell there and you've got a horrible little army all of a sudden!