Horde formation

[Rosstifer]

Becalming cogitations.

Hence why you target the Temple Guard, not the Slann, cast it on the TG on the corner, from 24inches, and don't suffer the Cogitation. Unless I'm thinking of the wrong thing.

[Urgat]

I have no lizardmen opponent, so it's a non-issue for me

[The bearded one]

Hence why you target the Temple Guard, not the Slann, cast it on the TG on the corner, from 24inches, and don't suffer the Cogitation. Unless I'm thinking of the wrong thing.

The regular dwellers only has 12" range. The large version has 24", but it is most likely going to require a very manoeuvrable wizard (generally a flying one) to get into that exact range when it can reach me, but cogitations can't reach him. I tend to shove my templeguard forward quite fast though, because what else are you gonna do with 26 templeguard? Thus I can corner the enemy and get into cogitation range where any walking wizard couldn't get far enough away anymore unless it were off the table.

[artisturn]

It all depends on the size of the game if I bring a horde and when I do bring a horde it will be Night goblins with spears ( a block of a hundred) but I face a lot of shooting so they are trimmed down in size pretty quick.
When I play my VC I prefer to bring the unit deep instead of horde since CR is really an issue with Vampire Counts.

[Dreadlordpaul]

I don't see peoples problem with cognition and stuff tbh. A slann of the 3rd generation plus should be powerful.

Now I dont see the problem with hordes as the only hordes i ever take are Marauders (if ive taken wulfrik) or zombies and skellies

[IcedCrow]

My only issue with hordes really is that people horde up elite troops. A horde of marauders, zombies, skellies, etc... I feel look pretty cool horded up. It's the horde of chosen warriors, greatswords, ogres, etc... that I have personal quibbles with.

[Duke Ramulots]

My only issue with hordes really is that people horde up elite troops. A horde of marauders, zombies, skellies, etc... I feel look pretty cool horded up. It's the horde of chosen warriors, greatswords, ogres, etc... that I have personal quibbles with.

Why? It seems you equate hording up with poor tactics...

[IcedCrow]

No. Hording up does not mean poor tactics. Hording up elite units means that you have units that are 800-1000 points a pop and your army is two or three units total, which removes the aspect of armies battling on the table and turns it into two or three large units smashing into each other. (so instead of having many units with low model count, you have few units with large model count) and in essence ripping one apart means you win the game, thus promoting one-dimensional games of rock/paper/scissors.

[The bearded one]

But I thought 30 chosen of tzeentch , 2 warshrines of tzeentch and 2 units of 60 marauders with flails and mark of khorne was really tactical

[Rosstifer]

No. Hording up does not mean poor tactics. Hording up elite units means that you have units that are 800-1000 points a pop and your army is two or three units total, which removes the aspect of armies battling on the table and turns it into two or three large units smashing into each other. (so instead of having many units with low model count, you have few units with large model count) and in essence ripping one apart means you win the game, thus promoting one-dimensional games of rock/paper/scissors.

I agree with this completely, and it's why I love LIGHT comp. All it takes is 400-500pt unit cap, a LOS against Dwellers etc and the game becomes sooooooo much better for it. No need to go too overboard, just trim the sillyness off.

[Duke Ramulots]

I agree with this completely, and it's why I love LIGHT comp. All it takes is 400-500pt unit cap, a LOS against Dwellers etc and the game becomes sooooooo much better for it. No need to go too overboard, just trim the sillyness off.

To me, that sillynes is why I play the game. Sometimes I like taking 50 savage orc big unz with BSB and gret shaman with lucky shrunken head.

But, playing with the rules as they are in the book, I have to protect those units against uber spells.

[Rosstifer]

In a club situation, I'd say fill your boots. We'd never dream of putting comp on Casual games. What's the point? If someone's constantly bringing 40 Chosen and no one can deal with it, ask them to cut it out, no need to comp it.
I just don't want to pay for a Tournament and have half my games, that I paid my hard earned money for, ended by someone throwing 6 dice at dwellerz every turn whilst pushing 100 Bloodletters in my face.

[Duke Ramulots]

Understandable.

I dont like the tournament scene anyway, so many people just not having fun.

[selone]

Typically I use a horde, sometimes 2 and infrequently none. It does become a little bit whose horde beats each others, though not always

[vcassano]

Understandable.

I dont like the tournament scene anyway, so many people just not having fun.

That's really not true! People wouldn't spend all that travel, accommodation and food money if they didn't have fun.

[Awilla the Hun]

Strangely, I find countering that sort of thing an interesting tactical challenge. I have weak but numerous troops. The enemy has a few massive blocks. How to divide, weaken and break through them? Similarly, how is the enemy going to keep his troops together when he's being enveloped and harassed on all sides?

[Duke Ramulots]

That's really not true! People wouldn't spend all that travel, accommodation and food money if they didn't have fun.

What's not true? That I don't like tourneys, or that Ive seen a lot of people not having fun at them? Paying for something does not mean it's enjoyable.

[The Odor]

I usally run marauder hordes and in my nurgle army a Warrior horde. With festering shroud.

[Souppilgrim]

But I thought 30 chosen of tzeentch , 2 warshrines of tzeentch and 2 units of 60 marauders with flails and mark of khorne was really tactical

While not the same level of rage inducing that some stuff in 7th was, THIS list makes me want to barf. Add a lvl 4 on disc... It's dumb, not fun to play with, or against.