Nemesis Dreadknights with multiple special weapons

[Mr Zoat]

Bit of a strange one came up in a tournament today. I had always assumed that Dreadknights with different special weapons didn't get an additional attack, due to it being against the rules. One of my team mates believes that they do. I have not been able to find any evidence supporting his assertion. The only thing I can think of is that he is confusing it with the Dreadnaught Close Combat rule which says that having two DCC gives +1 attack even if the weapons are different. Have I missed something?

[Lord Damocles]

Might he be thinking of the Grey Knights FAQ?

Q: Does a Dreadknight armed with two Nemesis
doomfists get an extra attack in close combat? (p34)
A: Yes.


The Hammer certainly wouldn't allow an extra attack, since it's a [magic] Thunder Hammer. I can't see any reason to think that the Greatsword would either, and I've not seen it played as such anywhere.

[Sami]

You've missed nothing. MCs follow the exact same rules as normal infantry in regards to bonus attacks from close combat weapons.

[ErictheGreen]

yup. hence the reason that keeping it with nemesis doomfists is, 99% of the time, the better option as the weapons are ludicrously expensive.

[lantzkev]

no lol greatsword is awesome, you lose one attack, but you gain rerolls of... everything.

[daa6]

Does the Great Sword offer the same benefit as a sword does to any other grey knight in terminator armour? (+1 to Inv Sv)

[Mr Zoat]

No. Just improved force weapon with rerolls to hit, wound and penetrate armour.

[lantzkev]

if you really wanted +1 attack you could techincally replace another doomfirst with a greatsword I think, barring it saying "a doomfist"

[Dux]

Don't have the rulebook at hand but:
Fists, Hammers etc explicitly say that you need a second one of the same type.
Afaik that is no general rule. It only applys to fists, hammers, lightning claws and maybe some I forgot. But it does not work the other way. If you have power sword and a powerfist you get X attacks with your fist or X+1 with your sword. At least that is how its played in my area. But that could be a leftover from 4th. xD

As they greatsword does not have this restriction you should get +1 for your fist, following this argumentation.

If I'm wrong please give me the page where I can look it up.

[matt_17]

The greatsword and doomfist are both special close combat weapons, therefore their use together falls under the last paragraph of the "Fighting with two single-handed weapons" section on BRB page 42. Models using two different special weapons may chose which one to strike with each round bu niether weapon ever gets a bonus attack for fighting with two weapons.

Dux - the section you're talking about, which makes specific exception for powerfists, lightning claws and thunderhammers, is for using a special weapon and a normal weapon. It therefore doesn't apply to this situation.

[Mr Zoat]

if you really wanted +1 attack you could techincally replace another doomfirst with a greatsword I think, barring it saying "a doomfist"

Replace one, I'm afraid.

[lantzkev]

you have two nemesis doom fists.

[Tethylis]

you have two nemesis doom fists.

That is true, and you are allowed to replace one of them.

[ErictheGreen]

no lol greatsword is awesome, you lose one attack, but you gain rerolls of... everything.

for how many points? not worth it. Neither are 2 of the 3 ranged weapon options.

[lantzkev]

25pts to reroll wounds and hits is kind of worth it, also I can see the only replacing one sword, I was just kind of looking at it differently before.