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    Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    I hope this is the right place to ask, this is the rules section!
    is it possible that book of hoeth lets the caster irresistible force all doubles (besides natural 6 ofcourse) without miscasting? isn't there any errata or change of rules??

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    Re: Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    Quote Originally Posted by karse88 View Post
    I hope this is the right place to ask, this is the rules section!
    is it possible that book of hoeth lets the caster irresistible force all doubles (besides natural 6 ofcourse) without miscasting? isn't there any errata or change of rules??
    The wizard must still make the casting cost of the spell even if it's doubles and the item costs 100 points.

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    Re: Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    It is any roll that includes a double and it doesn't cause miscasts (except double sixes, obv.) but there is an additional requirement that many people seem to miss; you also need to roll enough to cast the spell normally. That is, if you want to cast an 11+ spell with a lv2, two dice, and the Book, a double four will not cut it.
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    Re: Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    The High Elf Errata changed the Book of Hoeth wording to only cause miscasts on a roll of a double 6.
    The same happened with Teclis' High Loremaster ability.

    So yeah, only the roll of a double 6 causes both irresistable force and a miscast.
    Meeting the casting cost and rolling a double of any other kind causes irresistable force, but no miscast.
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    Re: Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    Quote Originally Posted by karse88 View Post
    isn't there any errata or change of rules??
    Yes, on the GW website you can download FAQ/Errata for both the main BRB and the army books (apart from Empire who've only just come out and Vampire Counts who for some reason haven't had one yet)
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    Re: Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Rose View Post
    It is any roll that includes a double and it doesn't cause miscasts (except double sixes, obv.) but there is an additional requirement that many people seem to miss; you also need to roll enough to cast the spell normally. That is, if you want to cast an 11+ spell with a lv2, two dice, and the Book, a double four will not cut it.
    How's your lvl2 getting the Book anyway?
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    Re: Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    that is waaaack! :b.. lore of death, he makes 1 wound, gets another dice, 1 wound, gets another dice etc! :b.. i didnt dispel a single time!... - thanks for telling me that he needs to reach the casting cost.. im not sure he did when he got irresistible force on double 3.. :b

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    Quote Originally Posted by sulla View Post
    How's your lvl2 getting the Book anyway?
    It used to be a lvl4 but he had a miscast ;-)
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    Re: Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cambion Daystar View Post
    It used to be a lvl4 but he had a miscast ;-)
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    Re: Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Rose View Post
    It is any roll that includes a double and it doesn't cause miscasts (except double sixes, obv.) but there is an additional requirement that many people seem to miss; you also need to roll enough to cast the spell normally. That is, if you want to cast an 11+ spell with a lv2, two dice, and the Book, a double four will not cut it.
    Could you point me to where it says that please? In the FAQ it only mentions miscasts, not irresistible force.

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    Re: Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    There's this in the FAQ, Page 66 – Teclis, High Loremaster. Change the last paragraph to “In addition, any spell cast by Teclis will be cast with irresistible force on any successful casting roll that is a double, however it will only be considered a miscast if the roll includes a double 6.”

    So it has to be a successful casting roll.

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    Re: Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    Oh ok. I was looking for it in the BRB and BRB FAQ. Thanks

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    Re: Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    Quote Originally Posted by karse88 View Post
    that is waaaack! :b.. lore of death, he makes 1 wound, gets another dice, 1 wound, gets another dice etc! :b.. i didnt dispel a single time!... - thanks for telling me that he needs to reach the casting cost.. im not sure he did when he got irresistible force on double 3.. :b
    For some odd reason there seems to be some players that misunderstand the lore attribute for Death. For every unsaved wound caused by a death spell, the player gets a die to roll and if that die happens to roll a 5 or 6 then he gets another magic die. He doesn't get a magic die for every wound caused.

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    Re: Book of Hoeth - what is uuup!

    i know, but this guy never rolls at random? he rolls what ever he wants to roll! :b .. last time he made 5+ 3-4 times every round :b he was born lucky i guess

    such a shame!! all was going suuuper well until i my skaven weapons started to make troubles - ofcourse.. when he is so super lucky and i roll miscast on 5/6 of weapon teams and wlc for 3 turns in a row, loosing only 1-2 pr round i simply cant beat this guy! :b

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