Spearhead Expansion question

[Kwi'Kwag]

Played a game the other day and was confused by how I thought the Spearhead formations work with the units involved.

Example:

I took the Monstrous Creature Spearhead which gives your MC's a bunch of USR's including "rage". I decided to use all 3 of my Talos for the spearhead but I was unclear on how the Talos were going to work on the battlefield.

What I wanted to do was open Web Way Portals and have the Talos come out of the portals however I wanted them to come out of different portals and operate independently of each other.

What my opponent said was they were a squad now and had to act together, keep coherency, move towards the same target, shoot at the same target and charge the same target.

This is not what I wanted to do and would have not taken the Spearhead as having 3 Talos charge the same tank or IG squad is just not efficient. I couldn't really find anything that mentioned coherency of the units that are in the same spearhead other than that when you roll for reserves then you only roll for the spearhead, if it is ready then all the units in the spearhead are ready and can enter the game (I just thought they would enter the game at the same time but come out of separate web way portals.

Are the Talos really a squad that has to stay together?

[Fangschrecken]

Based on what i'm seeing in the rules you are right.

A spearhead arrives from reserve at the same time and that is based on a single roll for the entire unit. And Given that the spearhead rule is only in effect if the members of the spearhead are close to one another then it would follow that they can seperate.

I'm not 100% on how multi unit selections work but I think that when a selection comes in from reserve they all have to come in in the same way. So they would all have to come in from the same board edge (which, I guess, is normal). I think that when an imperial guard platoon uses Al-rahems rule to outflank then the entire platoon has to outflank and cannot enter from both the deployment board edge and one of the sides. How this works with web way portals I haven't a clue. I would figure that they have to all enter via the same webway portal, but can split up after that.

[Kwi'Kwag]

I would figure that they have to all enter via the same webway portal, but can split up after that.

I would have accepted that and been happy but my opponent said they had to stay together and with rage guiding them to targets I didn't want to charge it was worse.

Hmmm, next time I will know I suppose.

Thanks,

[Homer S]

Nowhere does it say they become one unit/squadron. They gain a benefit when units are within 4" of each other, but that is all. The only restrictions are on deployment and those were stated above. Apocalypse formations are the same: sometimes they are multiple, independent, units that often gain some benefit from working together but without penalty for being apart.

Homer

[stereynolds]

Nowhere does it say they become one unit/squadron. They gain a benefit when units are within 4" of each other, but that is all.

CORRECT! If your opponent says otherwise he should be reading the rules :P