runefang?

[Lance Tankmen]

im curious as hell and cant wait for my friend to get his empire book in 2 weeks or so, is the runefang in the new empire book still? is it still pointless to take if so?

[Mr Ogre]

It's in there.

If you found it pointless before, you'll find it pointless now. And a lot of Gamers begging to differ.

[IcedCrow]

It's in the book. It was never pointless to take.

[The bearded one]

It's in there.

If you found it pointless before, you'll find it pointless now. And a lot of Gamers begging to differ.

It's in the book. It was never pointless to take.

It's in there, it's a bit cheaper now, giving you the oppertunity to combine it with some other equipment. It was okay before, but pretty expensive. An option I like with the new, cheaper runefang, is a grandmaster with the runefang and other trickster's shard on a barded warhorse with shield. 4 WS6 auto-wound no armour save attacks (if you keep the new hurricanium close by the grandmaster will always hit on 3+, often 2+), and enemies have to reroll succesful wardsaves. This guy's pretty good at killing.. well.. anything. Fairly fast at initiative 6 too.

[Agoz]

Without the restriction of "general of the empire only" and a 15% price decrease, it's certainly more viable than it was.

[Lance Tankmen]

15% eh.... offers a bit...


and no i found it useless before if i didnt get my ward save n keep it up on my general. i used it 3 times vs VC and one time i actually survived a round in a duel against a vampire lord!


btw the build i was using was just:
General of the empire
runefang
full plate
shield

no horse, so a 3+ armor save and a rune fang. he looked awesome, even as he died.

[Minsc]

15% pointreduction means you can either give him The Other Tricksters Shard (my personal favourite), or Charmed Shield + Luckstone + Potion of Speed (or Ironcurse icon).

Don't underrestimate the Runefang on a Grand Master who has +1 to hit and hatred.
I've killed 'unkillable' dwarflords (1+/1+/4++) with it, and I don't think unkillable Dreadlords would fare much better.

In fact, the Runefang is one of the better items in our magic-items department right now. It, the White Cloak and possibly the Steel Standard.

[Kiras of the flame]

I think the new Runefang is a gift from Sigmar himself, With no restrictions and cheaper cost there's nothing wrong with taking this thing... well unless you're going for a hard to kill general and not a fighty one. that or a mage... which would be horrible

[Gaargod]

Don't underrestimate the Runefang on a Grand Master who has +1 to hit and hatred.

Can't get hatred from warrior priests. Righteous Fury now specifically excludes characters. Your point still stands however - a runefang on grand master is far more viable, especially if +1 to hit is around. At that stage it's like getting on for 4 automatic wounds a turn. Which is funky!

[Hrogoff the Destructor]

Can't get hatred from warrior priests. Righteous Fury now specifically excludes characters. Your point still stands however - a runefang on grand master is far more viable, especially if +1 to hit is around. At that stage it's like getting on for 4 automatic wounds a turn. Which is funky!

Righteous Fury does not, but the Holy Fervour from the War Altar says nothing about hatred limitations.

[Demoulius]

I think the new Runefang is a gift from Sigmar himself, With no restrictions and cheaper cost there's nothing wrong with taking this thing... well unless you're going for a hard to kill general and not a fighty one. that or a mage... which would be horrible

If im not mistaken they were gifts from the dwarves

But yea with the reduced pointcost hes more viable still pretty expensive though!

[The bearded one]

If im not mistaken they were gifts from the dwarves

.....zing!

[Kiras of the flame]

If im not mistaken they were gifts from the dwarves

and yet dwarves don't use swords...

also this is the only magic weapon that allows you to field not 1, but 3 identical copies (Marius is a bit odd but then again he's not normal)

best loophole I say

[Agoz]

actually, you could have 4 runefangs in the army. Karl franz, kurt helborg, and marius all have em, plus the generic one.

[theshoveller]

and yet dwarves don't use swords...

"Stupid manlings want some sort of 'war knife'... you know, like the kind you eat yer dinner with. Put Alaric on it, everyone knows he never turns out anything useful..."

[Cambion Daystar]

Can't get hatred from warrior priests. Righteous Fury now specifically excludes characters.

It also didn't give hatred to characters in the previous book, something a lot of players "forgot" about

[Wesser]

It also didn't give hatred to characters in the previous book, something a lot of players "forgot" about

Well it does now, so don't live in the past.

Only problem with Gm with Runefang is finding him a worthwhile target that wont be squishing him....

[Demoulius]

Well it does now, so don't live in the past.

Only problem with Gm with Runefang is finding him a worthwhile target that wont be squishing him....

Well he starts with a 1+ save... Add a wardsave/regen save with the remaining points and send him to hunt elite cav or something. Hitting at I6 and WS6 hes the only combat monster empire has acces to (aside from special characters)

Besides a unit of reiksguard (for example) wont benefit from his immume to psychology but with LD9 and stubborn who really gives a damn. Even if you lose combat they wont budge (specialy if you manage to get the BSB in range) making for a pretty solid roadblock

Maybe not effective though but at least they will look neat

[theunwantedbeing]

Only problem with Gm with Runefang is finding him a worthwhile target that wont be squishing him....

With the +1 to hit from a Hurricanium anything is a worthwhile target realy, especially weedier troops.
He'll usually cause an extra 4 kills in a fight, which is a handy amount.
Ws6 and +1 to hit means 2+ to hit most things, even enemy elites.

His best target would likely be something a cannon would normally be fired at, like a War Sphinx or similar.
Although there's little reason to engage such things while you have cannon around to take care of the issue.

[Wesser]

With the +1 to hit from a Hurricanium anything is a worthwhile target realy, especially weedier troops.
He'll usually cause an extra 4 kills in a fight, which is a handy amount.
Ws6 and +1 to hit means 2+ to hit most things, even enemy elites.

His best target would likely be something a cannon would normally be fired at, like a War Sphinx or similar.
Although there's little reason to engage such things while you have cannon around to take care of the issue.

Yea but then youll have to buy a Hurricanum and then you've already spend a lot of points making the Runefang work. And its still only 4 attacks.

It certainly aint useless, but it can be hard to squeeze a profit out of...especially if you end up facing woodies or Skaven