List of Entries Without Models?

[drbored]

*Ahem*

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Fixed! I'm honestly surprised that model is still there, and that it's still metal. Might be a hint of what's to come, if GW continues to remove metal models from their production lines.

[Brother Muninn]

Daemons are missing all 4 herald types (only Skulltaker and Epidimus exist) plus mount options for the heralds. Also missing models for The Blue Scribes, Kugath and Skarbrand.

For Daemons the Masque is a Herald of Slaanesh also.

There aren't any chariots available for the Heralds though, which is a pity considering Tzeentch Heralds don't really shine unless they're on Chariots.

~Muninn

[Hawthorne]

I think, based on the 40k Codex for Daemons, the current Khorne Greater Daemon kit is designed with the flatter face and no wings (probably have to fill huge divets) to be Skarbrand, but I can't say for certain (it says in the picture section like "Rage Incarnate Face" or something).

If we go to the pumped up versions of troops we get blood brides, trueborn (Dark Eldar), and chosen (CSM). Technically there is no Penal Legion Soldiers for Imperial Guard (it's not a hard conversion but as far as I know it requires actual conversion). I believe a few Imperial Guard special characters like Chenkov (or whatever the one that likes conscripts is named).
This one is nit picking (since it's an option) but Kor'Sarro Khan (Space Marines) on his bike (I think it's called Moon Draken), seems like it's missing since White Scars are usually known for riding their bikes and stuff like that.
I don't think there's a model for Wolf Priests but like nearly every other chapter specific unit (Long Fangs, Swift Claws, Sky Claws, etc.) I think we are supposed to just convert (with a minimal amount of actual conversion work required).

[Gertjan]

Well, they do have Chenkov for sale still actually. He's under the collectors tab as "Imperial Guard Valhallan officer with power sword". No idea why he's labelled as such but that's the model that started it's live as Chenkiv way back in 2nd edition. Also, it might not be a generic penal legion squad but Shaeffer's last chancers are a penal legion squad iirc so I guess they can say they have it aswell...

[AlphariusOmegon20]

I'll deal with each of the ones that jump out at me individually.

Chaos Daemons Blue Scribes

Technically, GW DOES make a kit for this. It's not that big of a deal to convert the CD Herald on Disk to the Blue Scribes.

-Dark Eldar (6 kits) Estimate Owed: 6
Dark Eldar Voidraven Bomber

Technically you could proxy a Razorwing as a Voidraven. There's not THAT much difference between them.

Dark Eldar Asdrubael Vect

Converting a Ravager to Vect's Dais isn't that complicated. Add the DE Prisoners as a start and go from there.

Dark Eldar Lady Malys

Converting one from a Kabalite box isn't that hard.

Dark Eldar Kheradruakh

Decapitator has never had a model, so I have to give this one to you partially. But adding an extra arm to a Mandrake isn't that big of a deal.

-Eldar (2 kits, 3 weapons) Estimate Owed: 4
Eldar Farseer on Jetbike
Eldar Warlock on Jetbike

With the addition of Finecast Warlocks and Farseers, conversion as now not only possible, but easy. Not to mention Chapterhouse makes a kit.

-Grey Knights (4-7 kits) Estimate Owed: 4

Grey Knight Inquisitorial Henchmen[/B]

Between Guard, Servitors and whatnot, this is easy.

-Imperial Guard (7 kits -3) Estimate owed: 4
Imperial Guard Penal Legion

Again, easy, just paint your Penals differently than your Platoons.

Imperial Guard Colussus[/B]

This already exists at FW, it's called a Bombard.

-Necron (4 kits) Estimate Owed: 3
Necron Doomscythe
Necron Nightscythe
Necrons Anrakir the Traveller
Necrons the Diviner

All are coming next month, if BOLS is correct.

-Tyranids (6 kits -2) Estimate Owed: 4
Tyranid Harpy

Can be converted from combining a Trygon kit with a Carnifex kit. The wings come from the bitz section of WFB.

[B]Tyranid Doom of Malan'tai

Slight modification makes a Zoanthrope into the Doom.

Tyranid Parasite of Mortrex

Same goes here, just use a Gargoyle instead.

Conversions will get you by until the actual models are released, and most of the conversion you'd need for these aren't that labor intensive to make them different than the originals.

[Chem-Dog]

It's not that big of a deal to convert the CD Herald on Disk to the Blue Scribes....
Technically you could proxy a Razorwing as a Voidraven.....Converting a Ravager to Vect's Dais isn't that complicated....Converting one from a Kabalite box isn't that hard....adding an extra arm to a Mandrake isn't that big of a deal....With the addition of Finecast Warlocks and Farseers, conversion as now not only possible, but easy....Between Guard, Servitors and whatnot, this is easy.....just paint your Penals differently than your Platoons..... ECT

All this I agree with but still we have Blood Angels Death Company and Space Wolves Pack boxed sets when Tactical Squad and/or Assault squad models would suffice. We have something like four Dreadnoughts which could probably all be converted from one kit with the minimum of fuss. The Baal Predator could probably be proxied with a normal Pred (there's not that much difference between them) and every single SM character could easily be converted using parts from the generic troopers or generic HQ models, and so on.

That said, I'll mention that there's no model for Kor’sarro Khan on what one would presume is his almost prerequisite option, his bike.

[RedemptionNL]

Imperial Guard Colussus - This already exists at FW, it's called a Bombard.

While similiar, the Bombard is actually on a Leman Russ Chassis, while the Colussus is on a Chimera chassis.

Tyranid Parasite of Mortrex - Same goes here, just use a Gargoyle instead.

The Parasite is a lot bigger than a Gargoyle, around Tyranid Warrior sized. A Shrike would be a better alternative.

But saying you can convert anything from anything is a little bit like saying that none of the entries have missing models, because GW sells Green Stuff.

[wyvirn]

The Tyranid Pirme is also missing a model. You can't really make a Prime from a box of warriors thn you can make a chapter master from a box of tacticals.

[Scaryscarymushroom]

@ OP.

How do you figure that GW 'owes' their customers kits? Just if they (or FW) haven't yet made one?

For one, I like that Inquisitorial henchmen can come from anywhere. It's why I like the inquisition. It's one of the only places where I feel like GW actually encourages their customers to kitbash and experiment. (and *gasp* maybe even proxy appropriately)

[AlphariusOmegon20]

While similiar, the Bombard is actually on a Leman Russ Chassis, while the Colussus is on a Chimera chassis.


The Parasite is a lot bigger than a Gargoyle, around Tyranid Warrior sized. A Shrike would be a better alternative.

But saying you can convert anything from anything is a little bit like saying that none of the entries have missing models, because GW sells Green Stuff.

Point1: why can't you play it as front AV 12, instead of AV 14? Simple solution.

Point 2: ok, still doesn't change that you can easily convert one.


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[ehlijen]

Yes, one an convert almost anyting; the range is wide enough to give a good starting point for almost any conversion.
But I don't think that's what the OP was asking. Granted, the choice of the word 'owed' makes the original post sound somewhat entitled. But speculation on what models are still to come because their units don't have models yet is not invalid by default.

Also, interestingly enough, at least one epic version of the bombard (picture next to the rules entry in the pdf from the old specialist games website (no clue if it's still the current rules document)) is mounted on a chimera chassis. It's rules however desribe it as a fortification buster which the collosus is not, so I don't think they were ever meant to be the same model, no matter how similar they might look.

[loveless]

Technically, GW DOES make a kit for this. It's not that big of a deal to convert the CD Herald on Disk to the Blue Scribes.

I'm not sure that's the right use of "technically" since technially, GW DOESN'T make a dedicated Blue Scribes kit

Converting one from a Kabalite box isn't that hard.

She'll be rather plain, though - and lack the fan.

All are coming next month, if BOLS is correct.

We'd have seen pictures of those by now if they were coming. We haven't - "just" Spyders, Wraiths, Tomb Blades, Stalkers, and a handful of other characters.

Conversions will get you by until the actual models are released, and most of the conversion you'd need for these aren't that labor intensive to make them different than the originals.

A lot of the suggested conversions are...how do the kids say it?..."weak-sauce" compared to a dedicated model. The Malys one really stands out, as she should look a bit fancier than your typical Kabalite warrior. The Decapitator one is dismissed a bit too easily as well - somewhat more to sculpting a 4-armed musculature than just tacking on additional arms - especially on a shirtless model.

[Sami]

Not going to list the exotic wargear items in the DE codex as they are blatantly there to inspire conversions. For actual model models:

Vehicles: Voidraven Bomber, Dais of Destruction (yes you can proxy, but that isn't the point of this thread).
Special Characters: Asdrubael Vect, Baron Sathonyx, Duke Sliscus, Kheradruakh, Lady Malys. Drazhar has a model, but it is from the old range.
Sergeants: Klaivex, Aberration.

Squads: Bloodbrides, Trueborn. There are no "veteran kits" to make them stand out from Wyches and Warriors, so people do it themselves. Compare to the numerous SM vet kits available.

[Faeslayer]

Orks:
Wazdakka Gutsmek
Old Zogwort

[Lothlanathorian]

Chaos Daemons Skarbrand (but has FW kit)
Chaos Daemons Kugath (but has FW kit)

What Forgeworld models? The Greater Daemons available through FW have their own special rules and are waaaaay to big to represent the named ones in the Daemons codex.

[MajorWesJanson]

Technically, GW DOES make a kit for this.
Technically you could proxy a Razorwing as a Voidraven. There's not THAT much difference between them.

Your use of "technically" is incorrect. Technically incorrect, the worst kind of incorrect!
As for the Razorwing vs Voidraven- 2 engines vs 4 engines, 1 pilot vs 1 pilot and cockpit in nose, Void Raven should be about 2 inches longer and wider. Plus the Void Mine.

What Forgeworld models? The Greater Daemons available through FW have their own special rules and are waaaaay to big to represent the named ones in the Daemons codex.

The FW Daemon Prince models work rather well as Greater Daemons in 40K, as they are about the right size. I added wings to my FW Khorne Daemon Prince to make a decent Bloodthirster.

[Lothlanathorian]

Your use of "technically" is incorrect. Technically incorrect, the worst kind of incorrect!

I love you just a little bit, in a manly way.

The FW Daemon Prince models work rather well as Greater Daemons in 40K, as they are about the right size. I added wings to my FW Khorne Daemon Prince to make a decent Bloodthirster.

*derp* I didn't think about the Daemon Princes on FW.

[The Warmaster]

Space Marine Master of the Forge

Uh... Really?

Master of the Forge just means, and has always meant, a Techmarine with a better statline and servo harness/artificer armour as standard. It even has the MotF profile listed on those two pages.

You were right on the conversion beamer, though.

[Axeman1n]

Belial, Master of the Deathwing. Very notably missing.

[AlphariusOmegon20]

She'll be rather plain, though - and lack the fan.

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A lot of the suggested conversions are...how do the kids say it?..."weak-sauce" compared to a dedicated model. The Malys one really stands out, as she should look a bit fancier than your typical Kabalite warrior. The Decapitator one is dismissed a bit too easily as well - somewhat more to sculpting a 4-armed musculature than just tacking on additional arms - especially on a shirtless model.

I never said that any of those suggestions that I posted would be the finished product. Perhaps I simplified my post too much, but I did assume there would be an implied understanding that you would have to do more work to the conversion than what I put in my post to make it look correct.

Uh... Really?

Master of the Forge just means, and has always meant, a Techmarine with a better statline and servo harness/artificer armour as standard. It even has the MotF profile listed on those two pages.

You were right on the conversion beamer, though.

You can get the conversion beamer off of Valthex from FW.

Belial, Master of the Deathwing. Very notably missing.

IIIRC, the model for the Termie captain, when it was released back when, was released as Belial for use with the Storm of Vengeance campaign pack. So we do have a model for him.