Franzpedo Empire 2500

[vinny t]

Fantasy Army: Empire

Ok, so I have always loved Karl Franz, as he and I share a first name, and with the new book out, I am tempted to try and make an army revolving around him. However, as I play in a very competitive group, I wouldn't want to put him on Deathclaw or the Dragon. So, here is my idea of a Franz list that uses him without relying on him.



Franz with Ghal Maraz on Pegasus
-Monster hunter extrordinare, and kills warmachines. 18" LD 10 is super helpful. Basically, he is the swiss army knife of this list

Lvl 4 Wizard (Lore of Life)
- Heals guys, helps keep infantry alive. Basically the standard lvl 4. No magic items, as he and Franz are exactly 625 points.

BSB (Full plate, enchanted shield, Dawnstone)
- Basic BSB. A 2+ rerollable save will help him live
Warrior Priest (speculum and dragonhelm. Heavy armour and shield)
- Swapping stats and a 3+ save mean that he is fairly survivable, and can buff his unit


44 Swordsmen with full command and 2 5-man detachments of free company
- BSB goes here. Free company redirect and are amazingly useful. In my experience, they are one of the most useful units empire can field

10 Handgunners with a 5-man free company detachment
- Wizard Lord can go here

10 Handgunners with a 5-man free company detachment
-Shoots stuff

34 Greatswords with full command
- Choppy block o' death. Warrior priest goes here and they just annihilate stuff with 30 WS4 S5 attacks and stubborn means they aren't going anywhere

Steam Tank
- Flank protector and cannon

Steam Tank
- Because screw you, that's why.



So, questions? Comments? All advice is appreciated, but my models are limited. I don't have any other state troops, or new models, but lots of knights, outriders, and war machines.


After some thinking, I realized that a list built around the new mobility of Empire could be super good. It'd be something like this:

Franz on peg

Wiz lvl 4 Lore of life

Luthor

Ludwig

16 Inner Circle knights with full command and the armour piercing banner

10 handgunners with 2 detachments of 5 free company

14 Greatswords with a detachment of 5 free company
- to protect the wizard lord and help secure a flank. Being stubborn should help them delay a tough opponent from getting to my knight bus

5 Outriders
- Fast, shooty, awesome

5 Outriders


Steam Tank

Steam Tank




Which of these two lists do you guys prefer?

[vinny t]

no thoughts?

[Mostream]

Very competative and killy.

I'd stay with list 1 since greatswords ARE awesome and 35 of them is just epic with Ld10.

Not my cup of tea though. Good luck

[Jerry]

Don't rely on your steam tank as a cannon. It can only shoot directly forward and you CANNOT pivot on the spot before shooting because of the stupid steam engine rule you have to spend at least 1 SP on the engine and move D6 after pivoting to turn towards your target.