Looking for some clarification on some rules.

[Židrek]

I've gone over the rule book but have been unable to find definite answers to some of these questions and would appreciate any help in understanding these rules better.

1) This has to do with archers shooting from the second rank and volley fire.

• When you have more than one rank of archers do you measure from the rear rank to see who is in range? For instance if rank 1 is just at max range I would assume that rank 2 is not in range and thus their arrows won't hit so effectively only rank 1 would roll to hit.
• Like the question above I'm assuming that if you declare that you are using Volley fire you measure from the rear but does it fail if not all ranks are within max range or do only the models in range fire as per the rule stated in the BRB?
• If you are volley Firing and the front ranks are in Short range and the subsequent ranks are in long range do you roll separately applying the long range modifiers to their attacks or do you add the modifier or subtract the modifier for all the models firing?

2) According to the BRB on page 111 under subsection FIRING A BOLT THROWER, "All the normal To Hit penalties apply to a shot from a bolt thrower..." From this line I'm under the assumption that ½ range or under is a short range shot and anything over 24” is long range and subject to the -1 shooting modifier the same as shooting a crossbow. Am I understanding this correctly?

[Iraf]

1, page 39 "we can't all fire!" section should cover most if not all your questions here.

2.yes, normal range modifiers apply.

[Židrek]

Well I do feel stupid now as I've read that section before and I guess didn't put it together. So it does answer most of the question, but I'm still curious about the modifies if part of them sit at long range and the other ones at short do I apply the modifier to the long range shots and roll them separately the same way I would roll a separate dice for a hero in the unit?

Thanks for the response.

[Iraf]

That's correct, some would have long range modifier, others at short. Hero roles seperately.

[Židrek]

Thanks for your help.

[T10]

Please notice the following from the FAQ:

Q: If I have a unit of 20 archers, 5 files wide and 4 ranks deep,
how many shots would I get using the Volley Fire special rule?
Would it be 15 (first two ranks plus half of the remaining models,
rounding up) or 16 (first two ranks plus half of each rank, rounding
up)?(p78)

A:15 shots.

Q: When a unit fires using the Volley Fire special rule and not all
of the unit can shoot, do you work out how many models can shoot in
the third and subsequent ranks and then halve the result, rounding
up? (p78)

A: Yes.

This is effectively a rules change, though. The Volley Fire special rule says half the models in each rank, which is kind of silly since this would allow a unit in one-model-wide fomation to shoot with every model in the unit. So "GO GW!", I guess.

However, you are still missing rules for picking the exact models that shoot, which is necessary to work out which models among the nebulous group of "half the models in the third and subsequent rank" are affected by range modifiers and which models are not.

-T10

[Valaraukar]

Given their answers to the other questions I'd suggest the intent is clear that you would see how many in the rear rank were at short / long range etc and halve each of these, the difficulty being if you end up with both are an odd number you get two values ending in a half either of which in isolation would normally be rounded up but I'd just 4+ it as to which gets to be rounded up and which down (this gives the same number overall as if you hadn't divided the group in two and both of these end in a half it would be a whole number).

[T10]

So if you have 25 models that are eligible to fire from the third and subsequent ranks you can shoot with up to 13 models:

• they are in files that have a target in their forward arc
• they are in files that can claim line of sight
• they are in range of the target

You then measure and find that 15 of those 25 models are at short range then you get to shoot with either 7 or 8 models at short range and the rest at long range for a total of 13 shooting models.

I guess that would work.

-T10

[Židrek]

Given their answers to the other questions I'd suggest the intent is clear that you would see how many in the rear rank were at short / long range etc and halve each of these, the difficulty being if you end up with both are an odd number you get two values ending in a half either of which in isolation would normally be rounded up but I'd just 4+ it as to which gets to be rounded up and which down (this gives the same number overall as if you hadn't divided the group in two and both of these end in a half it would be a whole number).

The way I was tempted to do it was to simply place the additional model in every second rank after the two front ranks automatically. So if I had 6 ranks 5 abreast the first two ranks obviously all fire, and after that you have 2.5 models for each additional rank. This mean that I'm tempted to have rank 3 have 2 models that fire, rank 4 would have 3 models, 5 with 2 and 6 with 3.

Thanks T10 and Valaraukar for the help.