What do you think of the new flyers?

[Sqallum]

What do you think of the new flyers? June 2nd, 2012

http://www.totalwargamer.co.uk/space...n-gunship.html

http://www.totalwargamer.co.uk/ork-blizta-bommer.html

I myself assume this is the SM version of the Stormraven, but hopefully with more armour. I am going to get this for my Iron Warriors pre-heresy... looks pretty cool from the sketches

Whaddya think?
Sqallum

[Hendarion]

You should really read the rumour section. The StormTalon has no transport-capacity and is AV11. ... More armour than the Stormraven, some ppl are just never satisfied. It ignores melta, AV12 all around, fires on flat-out, transports a cybot, can deepstrike and allows jump-infantry to disembark at flat-out. You really got to stop there imo.

What I think about it? I think that everybody gets a fast antigrav tank with better fire-ability than Eldar and DE and I'm not too fond of that. Real flyers like Apocalypse, yea, I'd love that. But just fast anti-grav-skimmer-like vehicles - just better - meh.

[Dreadlordpaul]

Im actually annoyed because just like always chaos gets nothing new loyalists do

[Reivax26]

We are going to get a "Mechanical Dragon" in our next dex so who cares about their little anti-grav vehicles.

[Sqallum]

We are going to get a "Mechanical Dragon" in our next dex so who cares about their little anti-grav vehicles.

Eldar? Hmmm, sounds good

[semper_fi]

im sure as hell going to buy the stormtalon and a valkyrie, and kitbash them into a proper spacemarine craft !

[sakura_ninja]

I really like the ork fliers, they are my favourite of the bunch
The necron scythe is ok
I don't like the talon at all.

[Chem-Dog]

What do you think of the new flyers? June 2nd, 2012

http://www.totalwargamer.co.uk/space...n-gunship.html

http://www.totalwargamer.co.uk/ork-blizta-bommer.html

I myself assume this is the SM version of the Stormraven, but hopefully with more armour. I am going to get this for my Iron Warriors pre-heresy... looks pretty cool from the sketches

Whaddya think?
Sqallum

Those links don't help much, I get a "no image" entry and a "page not found" notice...

Stormtalon

I kinda like it, once you get a look at the side of it. I'm not a fan of the HUUUUUUUUUGE chin Asscans but I recon an imaginative approach to colour-scheme would help there (to stop it standing out so much). I've certainly got a few ideas for conversions using the kit.

Ork Bommer

What's to say? It's pretty much how you'd expect an Ork Flyer to look. It's nice enough. I know one guy who'll probably have a squadron of them put together before the end of next month.

Necron Doomscythe

Cylon fighter + Stargate fighter. Again, pretty much exactly what you'd expect from the Necrons' current design principals. Certainly not offensive to the eyes. Can't wait to see some in the more adventurous colour schemes.

Im actually annoyed because just like always chaos gets nothing new loyalists do

Seriously?
With a new codex pretty much guaranteed this year.... Is it not reasonable to at least assume that there might be something coming. Like Reviax said, "Mechanical Dragon" is the rumour mill's word on this, I'm personally hoping that actually translates as "Daemon Engine", with wings.

[Souleater]

Honestly, not impressed.

After the amazing 'centre piece' models fantasy had over the last few months I was expecting something fantastic. These are okay but nothing special.

Hopeful Chaos will get a flying Daemon engine and the Harpy will look fantastic (if we ever get it).

[insectum7]

The Necron one and the Ork one are pretty successful. I'm particularly fond of the details of the Necron one, very cool.

The Space Marine one is really ugly. Considering its weapon loadout, you could probably make a better model by slapping turbofans on a slightly modified Predator tank.

[Dylius]

I think the Ork and Necron ones are quite nice, but not amazing - though I'm sure I could have lots of fun konvertin' the Ork Bomber.

I don't like the Storm Talon's under-slung gun. It actually looks like they've tried to cram more guns onto that little craft than the Orks have with their own!

[Clarkson]

We are going to get a "Mechanical Dragon" in our next dex so who cares about their little anti-grav vehicles.

whan, and really if at all, the next codex hits we get a flyer dragon thing. yet we still dont get any of the FW stuff that loyalists have besides the contemptor and eagle... everything else... we get forgotten about.. achiles? the "pre-heresy" pattern heavy LR? nope. the current crusader/redeemer that every chapter has, even ones that chapter that defectw ould have? nope. stormbolters?? nope.

stop wishlisting as chaos will never get anything cool.. and if we do.. it wont be for long

[Clarkson]

I think the Ork and Necron ones are quite nice, but not amazing - though I'm sure I could have lots of fun konvertin' the Ork Bomber.

I don't like the Storm Talon's under-slung gun. It actually looks like they've tried to cram more guns onto that little craft than the Orks have with their own!

the thing is.. the doom/nightscythe has been in the necron codex for months now... they are not new.. just never had a model for it. a model that was needed. what wasnt needed was the flying full-diaper or the plactic kit of the ork FW fighta bomba.

[AlphariusOmegon20]

Stone Rhino posted these in another thread. It looks like he improved the Thunderspud's look with a couple of changes.

[semper_fi]

Stone Rhino posted these in another thread. It looks like he improved the Thunderspud's look with a couple of changes.

indeed that was around what i was thinking... but making the tail section a bit longer and using some falk wings to house most of the weaponry

[AlphariusOmegon20]

indeed that was around what i was thinking... but making the tail section a bit longer and using some falk wings to house most of the weaponry

By removing the lower tail, Stone Rhino gave it the impression the tail was longer than it really is.

I think he really hit on something here.

[Xerkics]

I think it would have made a better helicopter tbh . ITs kinda obviously missing the blades.

[Kakapo42]

Well, I still wish that they'd simply plastic-kitify the Forgeworld aircraft like they did with the Valkyrie, but I think I like the Ork ones the best. Especially the dive-bommer and incindiary variants.

I'm still not convinced about the exposed pilot in the Necron aircraft, I personally think it just looks silly. It is however an extremely minor fault and easily rectified with some well-placed greenstuff or plasticard.

The Space Marine one I am not pleased with. It is not because of it's aesthetics, but rather because I simply do not see the point in it. There was already a perfectly suitable Space Marine plane in the form of the Storm Raven, giving them a second one simply seems excessive to me.

Actually, it just occurs to me that the Storm Talon seems to have been inspired by the Orca from Command and Conquer. I may have to see about converting an Orca from one one day...

I'm eager to see what the other factions will be getting, especially the Tau. I'm still hoping for a Barracuda or Barracuda clone, but it'll probably end up being just a Remora-like drone unit...

[sakura_ninja]

I hope they do a thunderbolt at some point, after they finish releasing the rest of the guard.

[Commotionpotion]

I won't tell a lie - as much as I hate to criticise someone's hard work in creating something, that Stormtalon looks...hideous.

I think the main problem is the manned cockpit. It makes the fuselage look excessively bulged (serious, why stick a fully armoured marine in there?).

If the Stormtalon was an unmanned UAV aircraft, like a H-K from the Terminator films, the hull form would make more sense, as the weapons could be carried in the central pod.

The Ork Bomma, with a bit of work, looks like it could be reconfigured as an Imperial aircraft. Its relatively 'clean' in its lines - all it would take would be a bit of strategic shaving and some alterations to the weapons, and you'd have a MIG-15 style Imperial fighter. It's probably the best looking of the bunch as a basic kit.

The Necron one is pretty much what we've expected. One thing I find intriguing is that the wings are plug-ins like the Valkyrie. If the joints are symmetrical, you could conceiveably put the wings on backwards, making a sort of recurve-bow plan view. With a couple of weapons swaps and some detail alterations, you could well use it to make a differently styled Chaos Hellblade fighter - the Necron detailing could be converted to a more Tzeentchain appearance.