Additional 6th Edition rumors from BoK [CLOSED]

[gunmnky]

BoK has posted an update about 6th edition rules, stating:

Expect the game to be similar to 2nd ed 40k and 8th ed fantasy.

• Every unit gets a 6+ save vs. all Psychic Powers.
• Random Charge Lengths are in
• Pre-measuring is in.
• Random Battle field effects are in.
• All armies can purchase buildings for placement on the battlefield.
• Psychic powers are selected during deployment. (except Grey Knights)
• Deployment and Missions types have doubled.

Also, he says you can now allie (example Space Marine armies can ally with IG). I assume this means you can take units from other codices again.

You can read the full source here.

If this is like the change from 2nd to 3rd, they'll put a temporary army list for every race in the back of the large rule book. I wonder if they'll do a smaller one then at all, or force you to buy a new one to play. This would make sense from a financial standpoint, as those who aren't interested in the starter box still have to drop $60+ on a new rule book.

[Theocracity]

This is already discussed in the existing 6th edition thread.

[zendral]

So part of the new fluff is that space marines are now the protectors of tau? Huh...*loads chamber*....BLAM! *thud*.

Haha, salt taken.

I'm not raging, but it is skeptical. Whatever, what comes will come. If the above is true, it will make it a whole lot easier for me to stay purely with chaos and necron. Playing the spaz mareens has always been a way for me to play the "good guy", but the last thing I'm going to do is guard the Tau :P. Sweet, someone must of used to much "essence of Tzeentch" with these new changes.

[gunmnky]

Ah, he just put it up and the existing 6th thread was locked before it was up. A mod can lock it if it's old news.

[Scribe of Khorne]

So part of the new fluff is that space marines are now the protectors of tau? Huh...*loads chamber*....BLAM! *thud*.

Oh man, you had it right in 1. Please please please dont let them sell out their own 20 year strong AND LATELY IMPROVING fluff/fiction for this.

[Raikoh]

Right when they said you can ally (in-game) Necrons and Blood Angels, I knew this was (at least partially) a load of bull....

[Yodhrin]

I'd love to dismiss this out of hand as ludicrous nonsense, especially as it's BoK, but given the recent work of He Who Must Not Be Named it doesn't sound as far-fetched as it should. And that's really depressing.

[KeyOfTwilight]

I call BS and all that bunk. Let's get a word from the rumormancers that are actually accurate on this, then we can close this like it should be.

[gunmnky]

Right when they said you can ally (in-game) Necrons and Blood Angels, I knew this was (at least partially) a load of bull....

I'm actually wondering about this myself. I don't recall a single piece of fiction that could explain that. But perhaps something will change. Sounds like all of 40k is getting shaken up. Sounds like the clan invasion. I wonder if Andy Chambers will admit he worked for GW after this one.

I call BS and all that bunk. Let's get a word from the rumormancers that are actually accurate on this, then we can close this like it should be.

He was spot on with Dark Eldar and Grey Knight rumors, even down to stats and points. How much more accurate were you expecting? Rumors are rumors. They aren't accurate until the final product is released. Is this real? Well, your "more reliable rumor mongers" say you'll know in about a month.

[KeyOfTwilight]

I'm actually wondering about this myself. I don't recall a single piece of fiction that could explain that. But perhaps something will change. Sounds like all of 40k is getting shaken up. Sounds like the clan invasion. I wonder if Andy Chambers will admit he worked for GW after this one.



He was spot on with Dark Eldar and Grey Knight rumors, even down to stats and points. How much more accurate were you expecting? Rumors are rumors. They aren't accurate until the final product is released. Is this real? Well, your "more reliable rumor mongers" say you'll know in about a month.

right about a release and right about rules are two different things entirely.

[FerociousBeast]

Blood of Kittens has a nasty habit of posting rumors that everyone hates that end up being correct.

[gunmnky]

right about a release and right about rules are two different things entirely.

That rumor contains both. Which are you claiming is false?

Blood of Kittens has a nasty habit of posting rumors that everyone hates that end up being correct.

Sadly, you're correct. I have a feeling BoK is actually tired of being right.

[dokfm]

I'm actually wondering about this myself. I don't recall a single piece of fiction that could explain that.

Actually, both the Necron and Blood Angels 'dexes mention an incident in which they team up to fight Tyranids (I believe), then decide not to kill each other afterward because it isn't honorable. This has been the cause of widespread mockery.

[gunmnky]

Well, after the fluff in the necron dex, it looks like there may be a splinter faction that regrets giving in to the c'tan. But I would want to see a lot more plot than just "eh, they felt like it in this particular codex."

[KarlPedder]

Actually, both the Necron and Blood Angels 'dexes mention an incident in which they team up to fight Tyranids (I believe), then decide not to kill each other afterward because it isn't honorable. This has been the cause of widespread mockery.

Which I will point out was largely before the Newcron codex that really made it far less inconcievable that such a situation might arise.

right about a release and right about rules are two different things entirely.

They are..... perhaps you should go have look at the info that BoK released before the Necron codex was released while there were some mistakes for the most part the info was correct. People seem to not like BoK I have to say I'm not a fan of the way in which tastytaste posts but his info especially when drawing close to the release has been quite accurate.


Since these rumours were posted the amount of posts that seem to just boil down to "I don't like these rumours they don't fit with MY version of 40k so I choose to believe they are false"

But then again i recall a boatload of "Necrons aren't going to get multiple transports......."

[gunmnky]

Since these rumours were posted the amount of posts that seem to just boil down to "I don't like these rumours they don't fit with MY version of 40k so I choose to believe they are false"

But then again i recall a boatload of "Necrons aren't going to get multiple transports......."

I have to agree. 90% of the responses to the rumors have been "These rumors don't say that my codex is next, so there is no imaginable way that they could ever possibly be true. Just close the thread and say my codex is next."

All I can say is that 6th edition is coming and some new codices are sure to follow. If GW's record holds true, you WILL NOT like the changes at all. Beyond that, you might as well ask the moon.

[Sami]

Considering they've recently removed all trace of allies from the game, I don't see them returning like they were before. It might be that they're expanding the game to better support doubles matches and the like, and certain races get bonuses if they work together. But take X from Y codex and field it with Z? I very much doubt it.

[gunmnky]

Considering they've recently removed all trace of allies from the game, I don't see them returning like they were before. It might be that they're expanding the game to better support doubles matches and the like, and certain races get bonuses if they work together. But take X from Y codex and field it with Z? I very much doubt it.

How much would you believe a 2+ invulnerable save and 2 wound terminators? How about a unit that can make your's leadership 2? 3 carnifexes or 3 leman russ tanks as 1 choice? Did you believe that would happen? How about 3 outflanking falcon grave tanks with 3 twin-linked lascannons and 12 troop capacity as fast attack? Or a space marine unit that can assault the turn it deep strikes?

Did you see any of those as plausible? I sure as hell didn't.

I'm not saying any of this is right. What I am saying is that it's possible. GW is not a rational company and has not created rational rules in a while. This may seem far fetched but, who knows?

[Killgore]

Walk into a gw or flgs store and you will see games being played with people having fun, featuring inconceivable doubles games. What's the problem? It's probably only a 40k version of Warhammer 8th ed allies table.

If you don't want to play with allies in your games then don't do it, but please don't complain when other people may get enjoyment from it

[IcedAnimals]

Astartes protecting the tau and rebelling against the imperium? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahah..*breaths*hahahahahahahahhahahah ahahaahahha...oh wait, some of you believe this? hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha