GW terrain policy RAGE!

[Killgore]

I agree with the people in this thread who are trying to promote gaming clubs, you wont have any of these problems in such an environment.

Facts of this thread is the GW manager wants an increase in terrain sales. The OP disapproves of the changes to his adopted gaming environment and is threatening to take his business elsewhere, which is perfectly within his rights.

I found my enjoyment of the hobby increased when I took control of where and how i played my games, I went from a busy, loud and controled store environment, to playing at a decent club and amassing a large amount of home terrain. I recommend that the OP does the same.

[frozenwastes]

For WFB, 3 pieces of terrain is probably alright. For 40k, it's a no go.

With the switch to one man stores in many places, I can see how they might want less and less people playing in the store. The local GW store, for example, has three demo tables that can not be played on as they need to be kept free for demos and one other table.

[Mr Ogre]

If it's not company wide, then it's just someone telling Porky Pies.

Though to be fair, their isn't really any reason for GW to supply you with 'dream table' for free. 3 not enough? Just go buy some. It's very reasonable priced, plus you have the satisfaction of showing off another facet of your hobby ability. Not really seeing the reason for rage here.

[Balerion]

Meh

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There is one rule for the industrialist and that is: Make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible.
-- Henry Ford

The concept of a "money grab" comes in when customers start to believe that they are not receiving the best possible quality of goods (or are paying for sham markers of quality). Stop pretending that people believe in their hearts that GW shouldn't seek to be profitable.

[yabbadabba]

There is one rule for the industrialist and that is: Make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible.
-- Henry Ford
The concept of a "money grab" comes in when customers start to believe that they are not receiving the best possible quality of goods (or are paying for sham markers of quality). Stop pretending that people believe in their hearts that GW shouldn't seek to be profitable.

Now there is a paragon of human virtue to quote. When you have finished in your pulpit spouting nonsense Balerion, let's have a real discussion.

[6mmhero]

This sounds like just a local store thing that might be a one off. At least here in the UK the two store managers I know were able to ask for the kits they needed to make great boards out of the GW terrain. Which is actually reasonably priced anyway.
As others have said join a local games club if there is one about very rewarding.

Regarding Asp's dead horse that has just had Invocation of Nehek cast upon it, yes GW books are expensive but they are nice I am willing to pay for them. Price is relative to the enjoyment and use you get out of the product. I too own SOTR and it is not a very nice book to look at really, the page count might be high but I don't look at it much and haven't really played the game. I brought Shako and Spearhead several years ago and each one was around £15-20 and is thinner than an army book which was a similar price at the time. However I don't mind the price as I get enjoyment out of both sets of rules, I am not saying that Arty Conliffe is Money grabbing and should give the rules that he has created out for free.
In fact when you go to a games show have a look at rule books and supplements and see how the price and quality has risen in line with GW books (at least IMHO). Customers evidently like eye candy for their rule books and in part explains why FOW is a success (as lets face it Battlefront minis are not cheap when compared to the alternatives out there) as are the three great rules sets from Warlord all hardback and full colour. Gone are the days of the photocopied and stapled together cheap or free rules sets.

Anyway I hope the OP gets an aswer about the new store policy as it is truly odd why they would not want great looking tables (eye candy).

[Ixe]

If it's not company wide, then it's just someone telling Porky Pies.

Though to be fair, their isn't really any reason for GW to supply you with 'dream table' for free. 3 not enough? Just go buy some. It's very reasonable priced, plus you have the satisfaction of showing off another facet of your hobby ability. Not really seeing the reason for rage here.

There's not actually all that much rage in this topic. Sorry for the misleading thread title. I primarily don't want to buy terrain to replace the terrain the store just junked because a) it was perfectly good and shouldn't have been junked, and b) I have three unpainted armies that are progressing VERY slowly. I only have so much time to paint 40k (and only so much painting time before my old bones start to hurt, and only so much time that I want to paint instead of play video games), so frankly it's a mater of priorities. Should I play at a conveniently located GW store where I have to buy and build the terrain myself? Or should I head to an independent store (or even another GW store with more terrain, there are like eleventy GW stores all around where I live)? It's pretty simple for me.

[SotF]

One other thing it may be is something that's simply intended to be temporary. Having a push for GW Terrain and for everything on the table to be something that the wandering kiddies could buy a copy of in the store might be the reason. Having it be from an attempt to limit all the terrain to GW produced stuff could lead to this if it meant that they had to store or pitch all the scratch built or non-GW terrain leaving with a massive limitation of the amount of terrain pieces currently available.

If that's the case, then limiting the amount per table may be more of rationing to keep some terrain on all the tables.

[terradax]

...Really? My local GW store just built 'another' Realm of Battle with static terrain pieces...

[Abaraxas]

The idea that 3 or even 6 pieces of terrain is suitable for a 40k game is pretty sad.

[Bloodknight]

it does result in most branches being very same-y

Maybe that's the point - if you go to McDonald's, you'd expect the Big Mac to be the same Big Mac everywhere.

[Balerion]

Now there is a paragon of human virtue to quote. When you have finished in your pulpit spouting nonsense Balerion, let's have a real discussion.

Where does virtue come into it? We're talking about corporations here.

[Frosty_TK]

Where does virtue come into it? We're talking about corporations here.

Well, Ford wants to pay the highest wages possible. This is unlike most current (or cyberpunk) corporations which allways try to pay the lowest wages possible, and thus only exploit their own workers instead of careing for them.

[Ixe]

The idea that 3 or even 6 pieces of terrain is suitable for a 40k game is pretty sad.

To get us off the subject of economics, I find 6 is perfectly fine if they're all decent sized or provide some good cover. You don't usually want more than that (unless some of them are little) because it really penalizes shooty armies.

[Abaraxas]

To get us off the subject of economics, I find 6 is perfectly fine if they're all decent sized or provide some good cover. You don't usually want more than that (unless some of them are little) because it really penalizes shooty armies.

"the more terrain, the better the game" -old warhammer 40,000 proverb

[Der_Benson]

"the more terrain, the better the game" -old KHORNE proverb

fixed that for you

[Verm1s]

>> Go West.
You go West. Life is peaceful there.

Pfahahaha

Go west, young Ixe.

its like Sarah Palin in Scarlett Johansson's body: you are attracted to the goods, but repulsed by the behavior

Thinking about it, there's something about a Scarlett Johansson who can bag and field dress a moose.

Now there is a paragon of human virtue to quote. When you have finished in your pulpit spouting nonsense Balerion, let's have a real discussion.

Oooh.

[stroller]

But why you would choose to give this corporation any more loyalty than your local Walmart is beyond me.

Because I like the models they make, and I enjoy playing the games. Oh, and the Walmart/Asda toy soldiers are not to my taste.

[yabbadabba]

Oooh.

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[ChiTownPicaro]

Rules like this will kill off any Necromunda games. You need a lot of terrain to make Necromunda more appealing.