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    Re: Possible Undead races?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urgat View Post
    Maybe the rich ones, yeah. You think clanrats have money at all? There's no proof either way, but I doubt currency has any importance for any skavens other than leaders. There's no way they can have a currency made out of warpstone that would be widely spread among the hundred of thousand of skavens in the first place. I know these days skavens seem to use warpstone for the most absurd things (ounterweight for the plague catapult???), but in the fluff at least, it still seems rather rare. I'd argue it's like gold of us. Gold can still be used as a currency (in the States for instance, there's minted gold coins that are still legal), but have you ever even seen a gold coin used anywhere? I sure don't (my girlfriend's dad got a few, but he keeps them for his coin collection, he's not gonna use them, and they're not legal anymore here anyway, all with switching to Euro and stuff).
    They do need some kind of currency however. Thanquol's Doom cites plenty of markets in Skavenblight where the general ratty populace buy their goods and wears. Must hand over something for it! If not warptokens some other kind of currency or food perhaps?
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    Re: Possible Undead races?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urgat View Post
    I'd argue it's like gold of us. Gold can still be used as a currency (in the States for instance, there's minted gold coins that are still legal), but have you ever even seen a gold coin used anywhere? I sure don't (my girlfriend's dad got a few, but he keeps them for his coin collection, he's not gonna use them, and they're not legal anymore here anyway, all with switching to Euro and stuff). I don't see a skaven handing a warp token to buy his morning cheese ^^
    Gold coins (or Gold Crows in case of the Empire) are a staple fantasy monetary unit. Why can't Skaven have their own type like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodster17 View Post
    They do need some kind of currency however. Thanquol's Doom cites plenty of markets in Skavenblight where the general ratty populace buy their goods and wears. Must hand over something for it! If not warptokens some other kind of currency or food perhaps?
    I'm pretty sure they do use it as a currency, albeit rare. Warpstone fuels skaven society and hence why it is so sought after to them. It's not that rare, it' just hard to get for them! Like under Nagashizzar, lol.

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    I always assumed that warptokens were not themselves warpstone, but representative of it: it's just a currency that operates on a warpstone standard rather than a gold one.

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    Re: Possible Undead races?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arnizipal View Post
    Gold coins (or Gold Crows in case of the Empire) are a staple fantasy monetary unit. Why can't Skaven have their own type like that?
    I agree, but its' the rich people who have them. The others have copper coins or the likes. Well that's how it is in the Fantasy stories I've read, at least. You know, like the noble tosses a gold coin in a crowd, and they'll just jump waist deep in the filthiest **** to recover it because it could buy them a whole town or something. Same for a warp token, as I said above. Of course it's all my opinion, but I can't believe there's enough warpstone to waste for coins to be given around to such a vast population, where they're more prone to just backstab you if they want something anyway, and which would probably be your fate if you were a clanrat carrying an actual piece of warpstone around. Not to mention that it would just kill you in a few days if some other skaven doesn't first.
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    Re: Possible Undead races?

    Quote Originally Posted by Athelassan View Post
    I always assumed that warptokens were not themselves warpstone, but representative of it: it's just a currency that operates on a warpstone standard rather than a gold one.
    Seconded. Considering how Thanquol in his novels seems to value so highly tiny bits of warpstone snuff it would be madness for Skaven to either trade it or make coins out of it. I'd have thought that was simply a way of representing value in Skaven culture- applying the prefix warp- to everything.
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    Re: Possible Undead races?

    Skaven economy centers on slaves, warpstone and ferocity.

    If Skaven A wants something off Skaven B they either:

    1> Take it and threaten with violence; a skaven natural cowardise will mean they will often let the stronger take off the weaker - if it is more equal they will fight and the stronger will win.
    2> Trade slaves for it... I'm taking chieftain level - in general a chieftain could demand most of what he wants off everyone else and since he is the biggest and strongest they will give it to them.
    3> Trade warpstone for it - warlord, & grey seer level

    As for warpstone corruption I was more talking about deaths in combat - sure there wll be the simple killings by blade but there are also many deaths from warpstone weapons... skaven artillery is not exactly accurate; and skaven are liable to start eating the dead between every break in combat. Combat for skaven is half a feeding frenzy half actual fighting.

    I'm not saying there will not be hundreds of skaven bodys to re-animate but due to the nature of skaven themselves most of it will be torn to pieces, consumed and the rest almost humming from warpstone corruption from 'friendly fire' which may (or may not) cause issues with re-animation.

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    Re: Possible Undead races?

    I assumed that warptokens were made from impure, unrefined warpstone. After all, I've never read about a Grey Seer pulling out a back of money to fuel his spells. So while the currency might be based on warpstone, the actual coinage might only have a small percentage of actual warpstone in it, or very weak warpstone. Kind of like how the US Nickel is only 25% nickel.
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