Cities of Ulthuan (and other high elf questions)

[Urgat]

From the 7th HE book:
The star shape is associated with Tethlis the Slayer, the winged gem seems to be a Nagarythe symbol (the sentence does make it quite clear if the whole symbol is it, or just the dark background. Maybe it's more clear in English), and the hand with the moon crescent is not there, but is associated to Hoeth iirc, though I'm not quite sure either, hopefully someone more knowledgeable in HE fluff will help you better. A HE Heraldry book like the Empire one would be helpful for such matters

[TheDungen]

I would hope not they're just going to give everyone white as a secondary color =(


and the black background is nagarythe not the wings (i'm going with dark gray for my nagarythe army anyway black shields would stick out to much)

and i think the star with the fire below (the fire is caledor i guess since tethlis was a prince of caledor) is the design associated with tethlis not just the star.

[TheDungen]

Or the star is a symbol of caledor and the flames represents that he's the king having passed though the fire.

Or the star is the symbol of the king and the fire is caledor.

Without having the personal crests of any other kings its hard to tell.

The hand grasping the moon seems like a saphery symbol to me the moon seems to be their thing and that hand gesture is the vil eye in real life, beign associated wiht the dakr arts and casting a curse over someone. Also a high elf mage have his hand like that.

[Urgat]

Oh yeah I meant Saphery, not Hoeth. For the rest, can't help, sorry.

[woodster17]

well since their main god is the god of war and murder so i always figured that martial provess was a important value in their culture, but dark elves isnt my area really.

On another topic what are the three shield iicons included in the high elf spearmen set. Just random symbols?

Yeah looked through all of my HE resources and as far as I can tell they are random symbols. Taking a look at the GW paint job for the spearmen, the symbols on the banner are clearly runes, but the one on the left doesn't seem to match up to the AB symbols. The one on the right corresponds with Oriour which means blood, birth, the one on the right could be Menlui (water, life, majesty) or Harathoi (youth, boundless energy, jealousy). You often see the symbol of Asuryan detailed freehand on shields/standards too (again, it's on the GW Phoenix Guard paint job standard on the left for reference).

Nice work with the shadow warrior army btw, looks decent.

Edit: Sorry I thought you were looking for runes. The star is definitely the symbol of Tethlis the Slayer according to the AB, I would assume Saphery is correct too although the winged gem is a little ambiguous. I would just point to the fact that the kit is particularly old and might just be a random symbols done at the time. The 7th edition AB symbols section might explain them to an extent but leave some open to interpretation.

Done a little more searching and seen that the Eltharion has a quiver (on the Stormwing model) with half a wing and a gem. This would lead to me suggesting that the full winged gem on the shields is perhaps the heraldry of Yvresse? That's just a guess from the info I have though.

[TheDungen]

even less info in the 6th, and nothing in 5th ofc since the set wasnt out then.

and thanks about the army, i havent updated the blog in some time, i'm nearly done with the first regiment now, i'm a slow painter.

well i'm going to paint one regiments shields as Thalui, hatred and vengance, and the other as Arhain, shadows and stealth. and all champion's shields with the tears of isha. I imagine them kind of like the assassins in asassin's creed, granting the druchii forgivness when they're dead. (I know Alith Anar didnt do this in the sundering but he was quite young then i think he might have mellowed out a bit in time)

[woodster17]

even less info in the 6th, and nothing in 5th ofc since the set wasnt out then.

and thanks about the army, i havent updated the blog in some time, i'm nearly done with the first regiment now, i'm a slow painter.

well i'm going to paint one regiments shields as Thalui, hatred and vengance, and the other as Arhain, shadows and stealth. and all champion's shields with the tears of isha. I imagine them kind of like the assassins in asassin's creed, granting the druchii forgivness when they're dead. (I know Alith Anar didnt do this in the sundering but he was quite young then i think he might have mellowed out a bit in time)

Love that concept. Brilliant. Massive fan of Assassins Creed so definitely enjoying that one!
Particularly enjoyed the Raven Heralds, they are intriguing characters that haven't been covered enough in the fluff. You going to be doing that free hand or making some kind of template with the runes?

[Gorbad Ironclaw]

Isnt that true in the 41th millenium as well? i've never heard of a space marine dying of old age

That's because they usually gets killed before they get that old, but we have a fair number of references to them growing old and retiring to support roles/having a finite life span. For instance we know that Blood Angels have a much longer lifespan than almost all other marines.

But yeah, generally GW just doesn't care about such things. The background is suppose to be inspiring and about the wargames they make. It's not treaties that accurately depicts the biological, social and economic realities of each race. All of that is hand waved away. So you can pretty much fill the blanks on those as you see fit.

[TheDungen]

I'm lazy i'll print them out in a good size cut them out and glue them on then seal them there with vanish.

I found what the Wing symbol is!

"The design upon it was indistinct but Alith recognized it immideatly as a golden griffon's wing: The standard of House Anar." //Shadow King Pg. 521
Sound like it might be our wing symbol especially considering we've been shown a nagarythe shield with that symbol.