Hardcover Codex

[Den87]

With 6th edition coming this year, does anyone think we may get hardcover codex. Fantasy got them for their new rules. Im not sure if this was already discussed, if it was my apologies.

[chromedog]

If GW want to commit economic suicide in the antipodes, maybe. Their numbers are sliding enough as is.

[Scalebug]

If GW want to commit economic suicide in the antipodes, maybe. Their numbers are sliding enough as is.

Aren't you the financial expert...



Pretty safe to assume we will get hardcover books. With a price-hike. Without GW commiting economic suicide. Because people will still buy them. And whine on the interwebs.

[Den87]

I hope we do get the hardcovers, I personally do not mind paying a little extra for better quality. But there will always be those that dont want to pay extra which I can understand, but how many codex do you really need to buy.

[Latro_]

There has been talk that 6th ed codex books will be hardback, like everything these days with GW, we'll just have to wait and see.

[Den87]

There has been talk that 6th ed codex books will be hardback, like everything these days with GW, we'll just have to wait and see.

No I understand that is the wait and see game, but the thought crossed my mine. I was also thinking that many people state that 40k is more popular then fantasy, but fantasy got the nicer army books first, i suppose to bring fantasy back in the ring, though I perfer fantasy over 40k.

[Beppo1234]

as long as they can be opened all the way up, and left open on a specific page, without splitting the spine, i'll be happy with HC. But I've ruined a couple of big rule books this way.

[Crimson Reaver]

No objections on hardcover books as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully it will make them more hard wearing when being transported and used during games.

[Marzillius]

If GW want to commit economic suicide in the antipodes, maybe. Their numbers are sliding enough as is.

GW's player base is growing, just compare the rate of new releases to 3 years ago. Also, GW actually went with profit in 2011, something few entertainment buisnesses can brag about.

[ehlijen]

GW's player base is growing, just compare the rate of new releases to 3 years ago. Also, GW actually went with profit in 2011, something few entertainment buisnesses can brag about.

The rate of releases is at best loosely indicative of player base numbers.

[megatrons2nd]

GW's player base is growing, just compare the rate of new releases to 3 years ago. Also, GW actually went with profit in 2011, something few entertainment buisnesses can brag about.

Getting a profit isn't that hard when you raise your prices at every turn. Yearly price raise, check, increase price when changing box cover, check, raise price when updating army, check.......

I personally would not mind a hardcover codex, but the price will be higher than larger books printed by other companies. So I would prefer a soft cover at a lesser price than current or a hard cover with no price increase. Sadly GW will just raise the price and give us a dubious gain in quality.

[ColShaw]

I wouldn't mind hardcover books if they didn't cost $38 apiece. Since they probably will... well, Battlefront can have my money instead.

[Gertjan]

They probably will,c an't see them sticking to softcover for 40k while going hardcover for fantasy, on the other hand fantasy has always been a game played more by the "older" people on average than 40k has so maybe they will stick to softcover. Either way I'm not really hoping it'll be hardcover, the hardcover price has just become to much for me. I paid iirc €27.50 for the O&G hardcover book which was a tad on the higher side but I was able to stomach it but now they are at € 32.50 already, and that I simply cannot justify anymore. Not for books with mediochre writing and artwork that has been regurgitated for quite a long time now with only ever so seldom a new piece of art in there. I"ll find some other way to get my hands on the info in the army books or I'll wait till I can get it 2nd hand.

That said, the hardcover books are more usefull in that they will stay open on the page I want them to stay open and they feel and look better (I know, it's a subjective thing but it feels more like a book to me than softcovers ever can). Guess only time will tell what it'll be, though given recent trends in price increases I daresay it won't matter much to me personally as byt he time the first codex hits the shelves it'll be beyond what I'm willing to pay regardless of whether it's hardcover or not (sorry if I should not have mentioned the whole price bit as there's a seperate thread for that, I"ll try to refrain from it, thought it was pertinent to the post though).

[loveless]

I'm sure they will. That's why I shifted over to a Xenos player - I don't have to worry about updates and having to buy overpriced hardcover codices for years.

[Megad00mer]

I really like the hardcover fantasy army books and would be quite happy if 40k Codexes got the same treatment. Yes, the books are about $10 more expensive but considering we get (if we're lucky) 3 Codexes a year? I think I can handle an extra $30 bucks a year (if that) for better quality, full color products.

[megatrons2nd]

I really like the hardcover fantasy army books and would be quite happy if 40k Codexes got the same treatment. Yes, the books are about $10 more expensive but considering we get (if we're lucky) 3 Codexes a year? I think I can handle an extra $30 bucks a year (if that) for better quality, full color products.

And for like $10 more you can buy a book 3 times the size, with real full color rather than the 2-4 colors used by GW. The backing is also made with better quality. I dropped a GW one once on a carpeted floor and it split the cover about 1/4(roughly 3 1/2 inches) the way down the side. I dropped my Battletech book on concrete and it weathered the fall better, but still split a corner of the cover buy about 2 inches. Did I mention it was more than twice the size and weight?

The not full color GW books are only better than their soft bound books by a marginal amount. They are not worth the price they ask. I will get mine secondhand, or as a gift, but will not buy direct/new.

[Megad00mer]

And for like $10 more you can buy a book 3 times the size, with real full color rather than the 2-4 colors used by GW. The backing is also made with better quality. I dropped a GW one once on a carpeted floor and it split the cover about 1/4(roughly 3 1/2 inches) the way down the side. I dropped my Battletech book on concrete and it weathered the fall better, but still split a corner of the cover buy about 2 inches. Did I mention it was more than twice the size and weight?

The not full color GW books are only better than their soft bound books by a marginal amount. They are not worth the price they ask. I will get mine secondhand, or as a gift, but will not buy direct/new.

Thing is...I play 40k...not Battletech so.......

To each their own. I'm sure plenty of players won't feel the books are worth the extra money and that's fine. We all know there are plenty of ways a person can "obtain" a copy of a new Codex/Army Book that doesn't involve buying one new. For those like me who actually like to collect them however, I think it will be a welcome change.

I think GW should take a page (pun intended) from Privateer Press' playbook (another one!) and offer both a soft and hardcover version of their books and let the players decide.

[Axeman1n]

This is a soar subject to me because I had planned on buying each codex as they came out. I have all of the current 40k codecies, as I had planned, but now with my ingress into WFB, I don't think I can keep up. I got my OK book, but now I have to get TK, VC, and Emp. That and tax makes for a lot of book. It's to the point where in order to keep buying books I will not be able to buy more models. My gaming dollar is not increasing as fast as the price of gaming.

[MajorWesJanson]

I expect Hardback Codices and plastic mini-sprues/clampack models to show up with the new edition.

[Bunnahabhain]

I'm sure we'll get them. I don't want them.

A big price hike, for probably a marginal increase in quality, and making them far heavier to carry about? Thanks, but no thanks.

If the actual content was much, much better- Lots of well written new background, decent pictures, a properly done and well laid out army list, then they might be worth it.