For me, the price will only be a problem if the content in the book isn't worth it.Originally Posted by ColShaw
If I thought the Grey Knight Codex were worth $33, I would happily shell out another $5 to make it hardcover. But most of their codices are already overpriced, IMO.
It was more as a quality/price comparison. I'm unfamiliar with Privateer Press book quality, and prices. I personally play Battletech, Vor the Maelstrom, and Warhammer 40K. As well as a smattering of board games. The quality to price comparison of GW books is more price less quality, in my opinion. My Vor books have stood ground better than the comparably sized GW ones, and my larger hard bound books appear to stand up to more abuse than the hard bound fantasy books that I've handled.Thing is...I play 40k...not Battletech so.......
To each their own. I'm sure plenty of players won't feel the books are worth the extra money and that's fine. We all know there are plenty of ways a person can "obtain"a copy of a new Codex/Army Book that doesn't involve buying one new. For those like me who actually like to collect them however, I think it will be a welcome change.
I think GW should take a page (pun intended) from Privateer Press' playbook (another one!) and offer both a soft and hardcover version of their books and let the players decide.
Battletech has a more stable rule set than 40K. It is worth a try to play.
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I dropped a bible once. Got struck by lightning. Where's that kind of quality GW?
as said a HC would be nice, as you only need to buy it once so dropping what ever cost on it once would not hurt i dont think , and they last longer and look nicer. well nothing like seeing load of hard back books sitting their looking at you saying "you could of gone on a nice weeks holiday if you did not buy us"
Personally, I'd like the idea of nice, sit on the shelf hardback color codex loaded with background, painting guides, short stories etc basically the first half of current codex's expanded upon.
Then GW could release the army special rules, army lists and unit rules entries online as regularly updated and erratad PDF's (say, on a 6 monthly review cycle). A printed copy (of quality akin to the assembly guides included in larger kits) would also be bundled in battleforce boxes.
GW can then leverage more money out of people for plastic-crack rather than less profitable outsourced printed materials, as the desire to pick up an alternate armies via battleforce is increased without the requisite £25 barrier-to-entry cost of an extra army book.
People who don't want to buy the big fancy color hardback book dont have to - the critical "needed to play" rules are easily accessible and updateable (if updated in concert every 6 months) and new unit entries and special models can be added easily without being tied to a ten year refresh cycle for codexes - making the release cycle of models that much flexible as they dont need to release in army specific waves... instead add some new or updated units once every six months via the "living" codexs, when you know the induvidual models are going to be ready to ship in that half year.
Just a thought - would surely keep all takers happy?
I really enjoy my new hardcover Ogre book so I think I will enjoy any hardcover 40k books as well, but I dont think any of my armys will get a update soon.
I think it's inevitable but I'm not happy about it. The rules are the rules regardless of the cover on the book, and they're already just churning out background text to fill space rather than doing anything interesting with it. I've specifically not bought WFB books because I don't think they're worth the money at this point.
On the plus side, I'm looking forward to new-style plastic characters migrating over to 40k (fingers crossed).
I hope they do them in HC. I don't care if they would double the price, I would still buy the ones fo my armies.
To me it's still worth it, I read them for years.
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I still read in my 1996 2nd ed. Blood Angels codex (Angels of Death) from time to time.
As long as they make the codexes good, I will pay up.
The 3rd edition leaflets was a disaster, don't go there again.
Give me hard cover, 200 pages of amazing fluff and pictures and I will gladly pay what they want. (like the IA books!)
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They'll give you hardcover, 96 pages of mediocre fluff and recolored pictures, and charge you whatever they want!
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If they go hardcover for the Codices, I will be bowing out of the hobby. This isn't a ragequit blah blah I'm an idiot thing so much as an I know GW will charge a price for these books in excess of reason and it isn't anything I'd care to be a part of.
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I'm really looking forward to hard cover ever since i saw the fantasy ones. Hoping to get a huge, hard cover chaos legion codex after this summer !
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No need to get out of hobby altogether, just don't buy the books.
I feel that with each new addtion of rules, the whole story line go forward. Like take the fantasy army books for example, the new empire book and all other new 8th edition army books really did not progress at all in terms of fluff. I just thinks that would perhaps jusify the price increase, meaning that yeah we have to pay a little for the new books, but at least your getting more fluff and a growing storyline.
I was having a similar thought, but, promoting such things on Warseer is against the rules
I am also a big fan of book-in-hand and I like to buy all of the books. I don't know that I'd quit altogether, but, it would be a sad day, indeed. Although, if the Chaos Legions Codex happens and is all it's rumoured to be, I think I can make an exception for that one in hardcover
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I understand where you're coming from, and it's your right to bow out of the hobby if you like, so don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
But it would be sad to see anyone leave the whole hobby just because a single company priced them out. There are a lot of games with interesting stories, good rules, and compelling background outside of GW. Even if you're only in it for GW's products, stop a moment and give other games a sniff. You might find out you like them.
Much like what I was thinking. Release gorgeous art/fluff books for all factions, but keep the actual rules separate and easy to update.
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NOT down under it isn't. The "tyranny of distance" works against them. Their policy changes last year also worked against them.
They are closing stores (because they have too many and the business model does NOT work here.)
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The price increase wouldn't even be single percentage point on the amount of money I spend in gaming in a year. This is not bragging, it's just simple math. This is not designed as a budget hobby, and it shouldn't be treated as such.
That being said, I wish the quality would be increased by more than a few percentage points. And that's just because I like to read codexes from time to time for more than just the rules.
It's never been a 'budget hobby' but it did used to be a 'reasonably priced hobby'.
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I think it works better here than it ever did in the US, though. Or at least it did before last year.
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