So I'm thoroughly confused on how the whole leadership attack works. Can someone run through, step by step, the turn/phase process for shooting and resolving it?
So I'm thoroughly confused on how the whole leadership attack works. Can someone run through, step by step, the turn/phase process for shooting and resolving it?
"But I being poor have only my dreams. Tread softly, for you tread on my dreams." ~ Yeats
General of: ~3k Necrons, ~4k Chaos, and ~3k of Tyranids.
Um, it's a shooting weapon?
So you use it in the shooting phase, with the profile given.
Only, wherever you would use the toughness of the unit hit/models wounded, you use the Ld instead.
Originally Posted by Weird Al
Ha I get that aspect but for example do all the hit models each take a leadership test (so 5 models under the template means 5 leadership tests)? Is it one leadership test for the unit that's being shot? Does a unit/model take the test on their base leadership or can they count an independent character? Does the fact it's str.8 count towards instantdeath?
Sorry it's simply a non-detailed entry so I'm looking for some help on how it is resolved.
Last edited by Buddha777; 12-05-2012 at 00:49.
"But I being poor have only my dreams. Tread softly, for you tread on my dreams." ~ Yeats
General of: ~3k Necrons, ~4k Chaos, and ~3k of Tyranids.
They don't take a leaderhsip test - you simply roll to wound as if their leadership was their toughness.
For example:
The template hits 5 models with LD 7.
You roll the 5 hits needing 3's to cause a wound - just as if you shot a S8 weapon at a toughness 7 enemy.
I believe you test on their base leadership. Don't have the rulebook handy but does it not say something like - the models can use a character's LD for the purposes of making a morale save, or pinning check or something? This is none of those things, so you roll vs. their normal LD value. But if an effect actually changes their LD value to something else - then you would roll on that. But again - I could be wrong on that issue.
As per the Necron FAQ you can instant death people with the S8 Abyssal staff, but only if their LD is 4 or less because - again - you use their LD value as if it was their T value.
You roll your strength against the majority leadership of the unit. It is not a leadership test, so ICs and other upgrade characters don't give their leadership to the unit.
Thanks to both posters for the answers. That makes more sense, making leadership the T value, so leadership 8 (against its' str.8) means a 4 to "wound." That said it also means it's generally less effective considering that LD.10 seems so prevalent (although it now seems great against nids who have army wide low LD).
"But I being poor have only my dreams. Tread softly, for you tread on my dreams." ~ Yeats
General of: ~3k Necrons, ~4k Chaos, and ~3k of Tyranids.
Not that many troops have LD 10, its mainly characters that have LD that high but they will be wounded on the majority LD of the squad they join rather than their own LD 10. The ability to kill marines with AP1 and no cover saves can be quite useful, and thats not to mention what happens when u attach them to deathmarks who can choose to wound any unit on a 2+.
GM:"You awake to a beautiful morning, the forest is peaceful as a zephyr whistles through the tree branches"
Bob:"A Whistling Zephyr? I waste it with my crossbow...ha I rolled a critical hit...28 points of damage, is it dead?"
GM:"What? of course not you *****, it just carries on whistling thru the trees"
Sara:"Guys relax a zephyr is just a breeze"
Bob:"Breeze my ass, it just took 28 hit points and it's still whistling at me!"
According to the FAQ that is how it works though, a 2+ to wound flamer template with AP2, just bear in mind that the unit won't be able to DS unless you choose a veil for the cryptek.Not that many troops have LD 10, its mainly characters that have LD that high but they will be wounded on the majority LD of the squad they join rather than their own LD 10. The ability to kill marines with AP1 and no cover saves can be quite useful, and thats not to mention what happens when u attach them to deathmarks who can choose to wound any unit on a 2+.
any argument to say that they're thinking of us by turning metal to resin is as convincing as a frenzied Khorne worshipper covered in blood, still chomping on a victim, with a Khorne sigil tattooed to his forhead pleading a case of mistaken identity when questioned about a murder.
I'm gonna try jumping a squad of these out my Monolith some time...Not that many troops have LD 10, its mainly characters that have LD that high but they will be wounded on the majority LD of the squad they join rather than their own LD 10. The ability to kill marines with AP1 and no cover saves can be quite useful, and thats not to mention what happens when u attach them to deathmarks who can choose to wound any unit on a 2+.
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