Rise of the Blood Dragons 2400 pts

[Deus Mechanicus]

Fantasy Army: BoC

The necromancers in the skel blocks, the BSB with the blood knights and the Lord cruising around doing his thing.

Lords

Vampire Lord 400 pts
- Level 1: The Lore of the Vampires
- Sword of Strife
- Armor of Destiny
- Enchanted Shield
- Red Fury
- Dread Knight
- Zombie Dragon

Heroes

Necromancer 100 pts
- Level 2: Lore of Death

Necromancer 100 pts
- Level 2: Lore of Death

Vampire 195 pts
- Level 1: The Lore of the Vampires
- Battle Standard Bearer
- Warbanner
- Heavy Armour
- Lance
- Shield
- Barded Nightmare

Core

55x Skeletons 305 pts
- Full Command

55x Skeletons 305 pts
- Full Command

Special

5x Black Knights 135 pts
- Full Command

5x Black Knights 135 pts
- Full Command

5x Black Knights 135 pts
- Full Command

5x Black Knights 135 pts
- Full Command

5x Black Knights 135 pts
- Full Command

2x Fell Bats 32 pts

Rare

5x Blood Knights 285 pts
- Full Command

2397 pts

A very thematic list, aiming for a heavy red black Blood Keep feel on this one.
Would it be better to have the Black Knights in bigger units?

opinions?

[ftayl5]

It would definitely be better to combine those Knight units. I would say 2 of 10 and 1 of 5. Would also save some points on full commands.
Also no barding is somewhat understandable, but no lances?? Black Knights need lances.

Zombie Dragons are risky, but your army is so fast that you might be okay with him against cannons and such.
I prefer Ogre Blade to sword of strife. Wounding all but the toughest things on 2's and an extra -2 to saves is much more valuable than 2 attacks in my opinion.

[Gaargod]

I prefer Ogre Blade to sword of strife. Wounding all but the toughest things on 2's and an extra -2 to saves is much more valuable than 2 attacks in my opinion.

Not with red fury it's not. With a bit of magic and luck, you can kill an extra 4 infantry a turn ideally.


Combining the black knights is a good idea however. Warbanner isn't necessary on the BSB - protection with magic items is definitely a better idea. You shouldn't really be losing combat with the unit anyway.

[hazmiter]

Can't have arm destiny and ench shield at same time on same char btw.

[ftayl5]

Not with red fury it's not. With a bit of magic and luck, you can kill an extra 4 infantry a turn ideally.

With a bit of magic and luck being the key words.
And infantry being the other, a Vamp on a Dragon shouldn't fight weak crappy infantry
Against anything T4 or better and with more than a 5+ armour save, the ogre blade will create more unsaved wounds = more attacks from red fury = more wounds in total. Much more so than simply having 2 attacks.

And I'll say it again, a vampire on a zombie dragon shouldn't be going after goblins and clanrats!! They should be fighting elite things with few ranks and where the rest of your army would have trouble (ie. demigryphs, mournfangs, knights, chaos warriors) With this in mind there is no doubt that +2 Strength is better than +2 attacks.

Your new list:

Still can't have an enchanted shield and armour of destiny. This is 2 pieces of magical armour, you can only have 1!

Necromancers on corpse carts usually get blown to pieces by cannons, bolt throwers, dart guns... In this case not so much as you have 4 units of cavalry ranging from somewhat threatening to very very scary and a zombie dragon, so he'd probably be okay. That being said, I don't see an advantage to putting him on one either so... I wouldn't bother.

[hazmiter]

Red fury, quick blood, blood knight.
Plus sword slaughter, and ench shield..... Blender on horse back.
Blood knights feel, should have +2 ws buff as a must.

[Deus Mechanicus]

Ok, new version. Combined the units and gave them lances. Added some dire wolves for redirection and harassment (the fell bats will hunt warmachines).
Added a Corpse Cart to maybe buff the Knights with always strike first.

Im considering putting the necromancer on the corpse cart, but will this make him to vulnerable?

Lords

Vampire Lord 395 pts
- Level 1: The Lore of the Vampires
- Sword of Strife
- Armor of Destiny
- Enchanted Shield
- Red Fury
- Dread Knight
- Zombie Dragon

Heroes

Necromancer 100 pts
- Level 2: Lore of Death

Vampire 160 pts
- Level 1: The Lore of the Vampires
- Battle Standard Bearer
- Heavy Armour
- Lance
- Shield
- Barded Nightmare

Core

45x Skeletons 255 pts
- Full Command

46x Skeletons 260 pts
- Full Command

5x Dire Wolves 40 pts

5x Dire Wolves 40 pts

Special

10x Black Knights 290 pts
- Full Command
- Lances
- Barding

10x Black Knights 290 pts
- Full Command
- Lances
- Barding

5x Black Knights 160 pts
- Full Command
- Lances
- Barding

2x Fell Bats 32 pts

Corpse Cart 90 pts

Rare

5x Blood Knights 285 pts
- Full Command

2397 pts

Hopefully legal this time as well.

[TheOneHawk]

I like your style.

[lisaundead]

Ok, new version. Combined the units and gave them lances. Added some dire wolves for redirection and harassment (the fell bats will hunt warmachines).
Added a Corpse Cart to maybe buff the Knights with always strike first.

Im considering putting the necromancer on the corpse cart, but will this make him to vulnerable?

Lords

Vampire Lord 395 pts
- Level 1: The Lore of the Vampires
- Sword of Strife
- Armor of Destiny
- Enchanted Shield
- Red Fury
- Dread Knight
- Zombie Dragon

Heroes

Necromancer 100 pts
- Level 2: Lore of Death

Vampire 160 pts
- Level 1: The Lore of the Vampires
- Battle Standard Bearer
- Heavy Armour
- Lance
- Shield
- Barded Nightmare

Core

45x Skeletons 255 pts
- Full Command

46x Skeletons 260 pts
- Full Command

5x Dire Wolves 40 pts

5x Dire Wolves 40 pts

Special

10x Black Knights 290 pts
- Full Command
- Lances
- Barding

10x Black Knights 290 pts
- Full Command
- Lances
- Barding

5x Black Knights 160 pts
- Full Command
- Lances
- Barding

2x Fell Bats 32 pts

Corpse Cart 90 pts

Rare

5x Blood Knights 285 pts
- Full Command

2397 pts

Hopefully legal this time as well.

Is it just me (please tell me Im being stupid here) or is the points value for the Lord listed above woefully wrong in that the cost of the Vamp Lord on Zombie Dragon being 465 BEFORE all the magic items / vampiric powers are added on and not 395 as listed.
That would make the list way over 2400 pts (not got my books at hand to work out true cost total).

Please forgive me if I am missing something here.

[hazmiter]

Magic armour and magic shield on one person makes them go boom.......