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    Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    A question for my fellow Space Wolves players whose primary motivation is just loving the army and it's background/origins/stories like myself:

    Do you lot feel as infuriated as I do when someone says "Yeah man I been playing Wolves too" but their force is really just a bunch of Tactical Marines with a couple of Wolf bits stuck on?

    I have over 100 Space Wolves in my collection and they have all been constructed pretty much 85%+ each from the Wolf kits. I don't have any models in my army that are "repurposed" standard marines, and it really infuriates me to get into tactical or fluff discussions with people who aren't "real" Space Wolf players. I was just curious if the sentiment is shared by any others who like the army for reasons outside of it's composition and abilities.
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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    Wolves have been the most popular Marine Chapter for, like, ever, so it's a safe bet that you've got a lot of compatriots out there...

    Really, though, love the Wolves and all their savage glory. Not a huge fan of of the "Norsity Norse Norse Norse" schtick Abnett and others have tacked on to them since Prospero Burns, but even with that, their spirit shines through well.
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    You don't get to choose who is a "real" space wolf player, I'm afraid.
    That honour was given to Johnny Maydupnayme in 1995 I'm afraid. You'll have to consult him as to the actual definition, but I'm fairly sure it includes those players who have been playing with unaltered tac marines painted grey.
    My facetious point being that to someone else you are not a real SW player since you weren't there in 2nd ed playing with a SW force made entirely from the limited SW metals available.
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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    That original post seems to be rediculously elitist to me. Sort of like the rich snob sporting his fancy custom thousand-dollar running outfit with the custom 500 dollar running shoes, looking down his nose at the guy running the track in an old t-shirt, cutoff shorts and worn sneakers, and sneering, "That guy has no business working out if he can't afford it...."

    If I played Space Wolves (something I've been thinking about doing since reading the Space Wolf novels), I would certainly buy only the models with all the wolf bits, and do all kinds of special conversions to make my army look as "Space Wolfish" as possible, but I wouldn't look down my nose and sneer at those who might do things differently than me with their own models. If some guy pays his own money for his own models, and they properly represent their particular unit choice in the codex, he has every absolute right to play whatever army he chooses.
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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    The top two threads:

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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chapters Unwritten View Post
    A question for my fellow Space Wolves players whose primary motivation is just loving the army and it's background/origins/stories like myself:

    Do you lot feel as infuriated as I do when someone says "Yeah man I been playing Wolves too" but their force is really just a bunch of Tactical Marines with a couple of Wolf bits stuck on?

    I have over 100 Space Wolves in my collection and they have all been constructed pretty much 85%+ each from the Wolf kits. I don't have any models in my army that are "repurposed" standard marines, and it really infuriates me to get into tactical or fluff discussions with people who aren't "real" Space Wolf players. I was just curious if the sentiment is shared by any others who like the army for reasons outside of it's composition and abilities.
    For a significant amount of time the only cost effective option for a Space Wolf army was using bog standard tactical marines. And even the first Space Wolf upgrade sprue was less than stellar in this regard, adding a few wolf talismans for customisation and a backpack or two. It's not particularly fair therefore to write off everyone who didn't replace their entire armies with the new Space Wolf squad kits or didn't have the budget to buy the metals back in the day.

    My own definition of a "real" Space Wolf player is quite simple. It's someone who uses Codex Space Wolves for their army list.
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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chapters Unwritten View Post
    A question for my fellow Space Wolves players whose primary motivation is just loving the army and it's background/origins/stories like myself:

    Do you lot feel as infuriated as I do when someone says "Yeah man I been playing Wolves too" but their force is really just a bunch of Tactical Marines with a couple of Wolf bits stuck on?

    I have over 100 Space Wolves in my collection and they have all been constructed pretty much 85%+ each from the Wolf kits. I don't have any models in my army that are "repurposed" standard marines, and it really infuriates me to get into tactical or fluff discussions with people who aren't "real" Space Wolf players. I was just curious if the sentiment is shared by any others who like the army for reasons outside of it's composition and abilities.
    So, anyone with older SW armies before extensive SW specific bits were available, got SM kits 2nd hand, tried a couple armies before they decided they liked SW's, or that wanted a more standard look for their Space Wolf Space Marines isn't a "real" Space Wolf player either?

    To be perfectly honest, many of the best looking SW armies I've seen have been the power-bandwagon hoppers.
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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    I remember when we had the dark green version of "Come and toot your horn, purebred players of X colored power armor army." good times...

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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chapters Unwritten View Post
    ...I have over 100 Space Wolves in my collection and they have all been constructed pretty much 85%+ each from the Wolf kits...
    Only 100...and you call yourself a "purebreed"?

    Go sit in the corner and glue/paint models until you have a full chapter of them...go...now...get on with it.

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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chapters Unwritten View Post
    A question for my fellow Space Wolves players whose primary motivation is just loving the army and it's background/origins/stories like myself:

    Do you lot feel as infuriated as I do when someone says "Yeah man I been playing Wolves too" but their force is really just a bunch of Tactical Marines with a couple of Wolf bits stuck on?

    I have over 100 Space Wolves in my collection and they have all been constructed pretty much 85%+ each from the Wolf kits. I don't have any models in my army that are "repurposed" standard marines, and it really infuriates me to get into tactical or fluff discussions with people who aren't "real" Space Wolf players. I was just curious if the sentiment is shared by any others who like the army for reasons outside of it's composition and abilities.
    Listen sonny, if you're not using the original Rogue Trader space wolf metal models then please kindly GTFO. It infuriates me to no end that we have these young kids playing Spacewolves with the new codex.

    Listen pal, I played Spacewolves since Rogue Trader came out and before they got their fancy Canis Helix and when they were just grey Space Marines. Then Book of the Astronomican came out and everyone started to play them.

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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    I would say I'm an old space wolf player. I started playing Space Wolves back in 1995 with Rogue Trader and then with the 2nd edition codex. But I think anyone that plays space wolves is a real space wolf player, just not necessarily an old one like me.

    I've got the origional boxed sets of Grey Hunters and Blood Claws and Long Fangs too. And the Origional Bjorn the Fell Handed. All metal. I love the models as they just seem right to me somehow compared to the new ones.

    I guess that makes me a real space wolf player just like anyone else that plays them.

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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    I play pure wolves but keep the parts from the Space Wolf kits to a minimum since I think the 3rd edition struck a balance between 'Marines' and 'Wolves'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapters Unwritten View Post
    Do you lot feel as infuriated as I do when someone says "Yeah man I been playing Wolves too" but their force is really just a bunch of Tactical Marines with a couple of Wolf bits stuck on?
    Because that isn't exactly what grey hunters (and in fact, all power armoured marines) are?
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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chapters Unwritten View Post
    A question for my fellow Space Wolves players whose primary motivation is just loving the army and it's background/origins/stories like myself:

    Do you lot feel as infuriated as I do when someone says "Yeah man I been playing Wolves too" but their force is really just a bunch of Tactical Marines with a couple of Wolf bits stuck on?
    That was pretty much the majority of the Space Wolves miniatures range from 1993 until 2010. The metal Grey Hunters box set had four or five Space Wolves-specific Marines (body/head/legs) and the rest were the same Space Marine bodies everyone else used. The Blood Claws, Long Fangs and Wolf Guard were better off, but still, you had the same basic Land Speeders, bikes, vehicles and officers as everyone else (the only Wolf Lord, Rune Priest and Wolf Priest models available were special characters). In 3rd edition, the range was reduced to a single accessory sprue and the aforementioned characters. So, I'm planning on looking down at you, you whipper-snapper, who's clearly only been playing Space Wolves since they got some shiny toys. I bet you supported Manchester United until they stopped winning too, didn't you?

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    i've been playing wolves since their last codex. i miss stubborn but thats not important. what is important is that anyone who plays the wolves for any of their advatanges (rules, tactics, fluff) is a real wolf player because imho they are all equal parts of why wolves are wolves.
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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    Well, clearly, my youth shows. I have only been playing since early onset of 4th edition so the venerable amongst this thread will have to forgive my ignorance of the old ways as far as kit-bashing the tacs go.

    I was speaking more in terms of modern codex-jumping Wolf players, whose pieces are almost blatant in the fact that they have been "repurposed" from some other previous force. The ones you can still smell the Simple Green on whenever a new marine book comes out.

    Still, I am glad to hear there are much older dogs than me out there still representing Russ.
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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chapters Unwritten View Post
    Well, clearly, my youth shows. I have only been playing since early onset of 4th edition so the venerable amongst this thread will have to forgive my ignorance of the old ways as far as kit-bashing the tacs go.

    I was speaking more in terms of modern codex-jumping Wolf players, whose pieces are almost blatant in the fact that they have been "repurposed" from some other previous force. The ones you can still smell the Simple Green on whenever a new marine book comes out.

    Still, I am glad to hear there are much older dogs than me out there still representing Russ.
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    Re: Any other "purebred" Wolves out there?

    considering i have played 13th company for about 5 years now.... sure do

    even now i have had to add vehicles... i still add chaos parts to my dreads, and razorbacks to keep competitive. and let me tell you; nothing says crazy-werewolf-viking like wearing half chaos armor, and riding on a fantasy chaos knight horse and being called thunderwolf cavalry.
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    So, my mix of Chaos, Space Wolves, and regular marines would really offend you. I use the Wolf codex, but my war band is slowly falling to Chaos. Mark of the Wulfen= plastic possessed. Blood Claws=Khorne berzerkers helmets mixed with chaos, space wolves and regular marine parts.

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