ravenwing attack squadron land speeder rules

[meanmachine]

2 quick questions

1) can it score objectives (I read it as yes it can)

2) if you purchase 6 bikes, attack and land speeder. can the speeder deep strike/stay in reserve or not (I think the combat squads rule prevents it from deep striking/reserving)

[Seattledv8]

As per the lastest FAQ , no it can't
DA FAQ(errata)

Page 27 – Ravenwing Combat Squads, second paragraph
Change to “Much like Combat squads, the squadron’s
Attack Bike and Land Speeder are purchased together
with the squadron and then deployed at the same time
as the squadron’s bikes, but from then on, they always
operate as completely independent units of one model.”

They no longer count as scoring.

2) The entire squad may be placed in reserve, the unit only splits when deployed.
So no you can't place part of the squad in reserve, it is all or nothing.
The Speeder( and the bikes) do not have the Deep Strike rule.


Also DA FAQ

Q: Can a Ravenwing attack squadron with a
Landspeeder in it, which has been held in reserve, use
the Outflank special rule? (p27)
A: No.

[meanmachine]

thanks

so looking at the answers i would say there is no good reason whatsoever to take a land speeder in a attack squadron

1) cant score
2) cant deep strike
3) prevents bikes from outflanking
4) cost a massive 100 points


did i miss anything.

thanks for the information

[Seattledv8]

Nope, they are a generally a poor choice.

[Charistoph]

Sure there is:

Your FA is otherwise full.
You have the model and want to field it.
You need the mobile firepower.

[Ceason]

Or wait for the 6th edition when the new Dark Angels are supposed to come out and see where it goes from there.

[Surgency]

2 quick questions

1) can it score objectives (I read it as yes it can)
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I can't seem to find my army book right now, but I was under the impression that a RW Landspeeder purchased as part of a troops choice was still able to score

[Seattledv8]

The word 'scoring' was removed by errata, it was scoring up to that point.

[Sir_Turalyon]

3) prevents bikes from outflanking

As it is deployed "at the same time" as rest of the unit, I believe it does not. You make one reserve roll for the whole unit, then parts that are outflanking come from their flanks and Speeder (and bikes that don't outflank) come from your board edge.

5) has two similar weapons that can't be used together unless it moves at combat speed.

[Tethylis]

As it is deployed "at the same time" as rest of the unit, I believe it does not. You make one reserve roll for the whole unit, then parts that are outflanking come from their flanks and Speeder (and bikes that don't outflank) come from your board edge.

Not so, having bought the speeder for the squad stops the entire squad from outflanking.

Q: Can a Ravenwing attack squadron with a
Landspeeder in it, which has been held in reserve, use
the Outflank special rule? (p27)
A: No.

[Sir_Turalyon]

I stand corrected.

[don_mondo]

Next time, read the thread first. Seattle posted that FAQ in the first response to the OP............................................ Save yourself the need to stand corrected.