Dipping? What's your opinion?

[ben8s8]

Do you like the results? And, what is the best method/products to use?

Thanks

[codeslingerMalthius]

its kinda gross, especially when people spit all over the place.

[Freakiq]

Most models end up looking edible or just dirty.

Just use washes instead, that way you can tailor the shade to the colour instead of making everything brown.

[baphomael]

It can produce some quite pleasing results. Equally, it can turn out some aweful results.

When it works, its a good way of quickly getting a pleasing tabletop standard. Having said that, I'm not sure its any better than using washes. I've found simply using Devlan mud in place of a dip offers the same kind of effect. And with washes, you get more choice in colours... and you don't have to faff about waiting for the dip to dry or bother with a coat of Matt varnish to dull the dip (as, let's face it, dips are just woodstain... and woodstain takes a fair while to dry.)

Alternatively, you might want to look into greyscale washing... even quicker and easier than dipping or using washes over a basecoat

[Satan]

There should be an ultimate dipping thread created by Pertinax at the dawn of time around here somewhere which includes my own personal efforts among others. Used correcrly dipping can provide some fantastic results.

[Wicksy]

I think its a good way of producing a table top army fast. However, it tends to work best on models that do not have lots of flat surfaces like armour. Many fantasy battle armies look good and i've seen some nice looking 40k ork armies. That said, painting is my favourite part of the hobby and fielding a well painted force is my top priority these days. I would therefore not dip. I'd paint my army. A basecoat then wash works well. Most of my skaven army is painted like that with the better paint jobs reserved for war machines and characters.

Get some more research in and decide. But bear in mind, like any technique, you arent going to get the best results on your first few dips. It takes trial and error to get it right.

[Tokamak]

Perfect for people that don't like to paint.

[IAMNOTHERE]

I used it on my whole SW army, one thing you need to do though is get a THIN medium and make sure its warm. That way the stuff doesn't pool or create drops on apendages.

[Satan]

Here's the ultimate guide to using the dipping method for painting. I don't understand why it's still not a sticky?

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...light=Ultimate

[Whitwort Stormbringer]

FWIW, I think that brushing the "dip" on is better than actually, physically dipping the models (which can get messy and in my experience produces less consistent results).

However, as has been pointed out, that's not necessarily any better than just using washes. Maybe a tad quicker if you're staring down a hundred or so infantry and don't want to have to individually wash different components of each model.

I think dipping is great if you have a ton of models to paint and don't have the time to devote to them that you would like. Or if you don't particularly enjoy painting, but want a decent-looking army without having to pay a commission painter. That said, I think if you're looking for a way to improve your painting keep in mind that dips will only take you so far and are kind of a short-cut to table-top quality, and you won't learn anything new or get any better at painting just from using them.

[codeslingerMalthius]

Here's the ultimate guide to using the dipping method for painting. I don't understand why it's still not a sticky?

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...light=Ultimate

Its on the stickied list of tutorials

[Satan]

People in this thread obviously need to look at the link I posted.

Dipping can yield great results. In my experience it is definitively not particularly similar to the GW washes, which shade an entire area as opposed to the recesses.

[Gargantuan]

It can look good on Tyranids.

[wizbix]

It can produce some quite pleasing results. Equally, it can turn out some aweful results.

When it works, its a good way of quickly getting a pleasing tabletop standard. Having said that, I'm not sure its any better than using washes. I've found simply using Devlan mud in place of a dip offers the same kind of effect. And with washes, you get more choice in colours... and you don't have to faff about waiting for the dip to dry or bother with a coat of Matt varnish to dull the dip (as, let's face it, dips are just woodstain... and woodstain takes a fair while to dry.)

Alternatively, you might want to look into greyscale washing... even quicker and easier than dipping or using washes over a basecoat

Then use floor varnish. The one that I use dries under 30 minutes. I dont brush it on either and find it very fast and efficient.I do not add a matt varnish aftrewards either. In fact I dont even add any paitnt to the sand on the base (after under coating white) and that is sufficient for decent mud/earth once dipped. I find that if I water the floor varnish down enough it works better and isnt so shiney. Though what shine there is I kind of like. In essence, I find it easier and much quicker than washes. The only draw back is the limited colour choice as you mention. Dipping isnt for every one but I've had more than enough people that sound suprised when I explain my O'n'G army has been dipped. If the Op is interested in a half decent dipped army then I recommend he looks at my blog thats in my sig at the bottom of this post. I admit my painting before the dip is limited and I could have done a lot more but in many areas I have spent the extra time on conversion work instead which I enjoy much more.

[Rick Blaine]

Dipping was a pretty neat speed-painting solution for a while, but I honestly think it's been obsolete since modern washes were developed by GW and Vallejo (and possibly others).

[Satan]

Here are some of my dipped daemons: