Is Slaanesh the creepy stalky ex of the Eldar?

[BooTMGSG]

Ok I was reading Path of the Seer, and a thought occured to me.
Rather than Slaanesh being the evil eldar soul munching beast, who loves his tasty treats out of pure sadistic pleasure, perhaps it is better to view Slaanesh is more a creepy obsesive ex.
Its like this the eldar excess gave birth to Slaanesh and Slaanesh gave the Eldar their wildest dreams, which admitidly was a bit freaky at those time. (Certainly freaky enough to give birth to a dark god.) But then some of His/Her parent/lover reject him/her for some frumpy dull thing. Slaanesh can clearly see that they are wasting their lives with her, they could be so much happy if they would return to Him/her! They belong to Him/Her, only Him/her can ever make them truely happy, and S/he will do everything in His/her power to bring them back to him/her forever, FOREVER!!!!!

I'm not sure its a much better prospect than the evil eldar soul munching beast.

[Askil the Undecided]

You have to consider the idea that Slaanesh doesn't regard the Eldar races souls as separate from it.

Seeing as how Slaanesh is made of the passionate perversions of the old Eldar homeworlds and the souls of the selfsame Eldar it might think that the rest belong to him/her/it.

[Zothos]

Slaanesh is the creepy, stalky ex. I believe Slaanesh is also the strung out addict, the stripper,the Uncle you dont talk about, as well as the guy driving the ice cream truck.

Slaanesh gets around.

[Zothos]

******* double posts....

[Hendarion]

Just... +1

[insectum7]

You have to consider the idea that Slaanesh doesn't regard the Eldar races souls as separate from it.

"But we're meant for each other! We're soul mates, destined to be together!!!"

[sgtspiff]

Slaanesh is the creepy, stalky ex. I believe Slaanesh is also the strung out addict, the stripper,the Uncle you dont talk about, as well as the guy driving the ice cream truck.

Slaanesh gets around.

So true... but don't forget the perfectionist accountant.

[Zothos]

All male coaches of girls High School Volleyball and Swim teams are also Slaanesh in mortal form.

[Charistoph]

Really? I always saw Slaanesh as the Eodipus(sp?) of 40K. The child both loving and killing its parents.

[Zothos]

Oedipus was also Slaanesh, as well as the carnie who runs the Tilt-A-Whirl at the county fair and EVERY Clown at every childs ill concieved birthday party.

[DietDolphin]

I imagine Slaanesh is like the Phantom of the Opera meets Rasputin.

[Chem-Dog]

Slaanesh is as he is because of who made him and how. He is the sentient echo of an entire race launching itself headlong into utter abandon.
In this I don't think Slaanesh has a choice, he thirsts for the souls of the Eldar above all because they are the souls that brought him into being. You could consider him a spurned lover, desperately trying to gain back the affections of those who once cavorted and sang with him, hopelessly attempting to claw back a fragment of those halcyon days.

But even as Slaanesh is obsessive, he is capricious. Spite edges his vision, anger at being denied spurs him into acts of cruelty, determined to destroy the beauty that rejects him that no other might have it, or to at least ruin it so that no other but him would want it. Until he gets his way and is repulsed by the thing he has wrought.

Slaanesh is the meta-mind of the Eldar at the nadir of their fall, it thinks like they did, no care for consequence only one fleeting moment of exultation after another, boundless and unfettered by things like morality or compassion. Why it regards the Eldar that remain in the galaxy in any particular way is as fleeting as his own ephemeral moods.
And to attempt to understand the mind of a god is to invite madness.

All male coaches of girls High School Volleyball and Swim teams are also Slaanesh in mortal form.

Oddly enough they are, but then so are all of the girls too....

[BooTMGSG]

But even as Slaanesh is obsessive, he is capricious. Spite edges his vision, anger at being denied spurs him into acts of cruelty, determined to destroy the beauty that rejects him that no other might have it, or to at least ruin it so that no other but him would want it. Until he gets his way and is repulsed by the thing he has wrought.

I'm not sure anger spurs Slaanesh into cruelty, to be sure it can display anger. He is cruel because it is fun, because it is interesting, because it is bored and wanted to find out what would happen if... Slaanesh is the Guy that takes things too far, then complains that people arn't going far enough. Slaanesh isn't cruel because because it wants to hurt you, well it does want to hurt you, but the pain is good, and you must try it if you are ever going to truely live.

[Lord-Caerolion]

Slaanesh is also jealous though, and spiteful. She'll gladly destroy something just to deny its beauty to others, simply because he couldn't have it.

[Chem-Dog]

I'm not sure anger spurs Slaanesh into cruelty, to be sure it can display anger.

In the context of "love" either romantic or something more family orientated, cruelty and spite are the symptoms created by rejection, the hurt that causes and the resultant anger. Everyone's heard a story or two about the woman that trashes a cheating husband's car/wardrobe/bank account/reputation as some kind of revenge for his behaviour, this is partly how I see Slaanesh's interaction with the Eldar, destroying their works, consuming their souls, not for any real fulfilment, but for a hollow and unrewarding revenge for abandoning him at birth.

Slaanesh is also jealous though, and spiteful. She'll gladly destroy something just to deny its beauty to others, simply because he couldn't have it.

As I said yes, but dammit man, choose a gender and stick with it!

[Charistoph]

As I said yes, but dammit man, choose a gender and stick with it!

English doesn't have a gender pronoun for both, so using either is perfectly legal.

[Askil the Undecided]

English doesn't have a gender pronoun for both, so using either is perfectly legal.

"It." Problem solved, getting hung up on the easy route of using gender pronouns about a unique and genderless creature is your problem not that of the English language.

That having been dealt with.

I'm with Chem-dog on this, Slaanesh is a creature of pure Id. It pusues it's prey to give it pleasure, this pleasure may be hollow, flawed or even vacuous and unfulfilling but Slaanesh does not or cannot care, it simply doesn't posess that capacity for self-reflection.

The real question should be "Is Slaanesh just an abandoned child scornfully lashing out at the absentee parents this disowned it?"

[BooTMGSG]

"It." Problem solved, getting hung up on the easy route of using gender pronouns about a unique and genderless creature is your problem not that of the English language.

That having been dealt with.

Except "It" implies no gender, while Slaanesh encompases both. Slaanesh is not genderless.

[sycopat]

Except "It" implies no gender, while Slaanesh encompases both. Slaanesh is not genderless.

"It" doesn't imply the lack of a gender though, it just doesn't specify one.

"It" does not imply a gender is not the same as "It" implies no gender.

So "It" is appropriate to use for Slaanesh. Also, as things beyond comprehension or classification, 'It' is probably the most correct pronoun for all chaos gods and daemons.

That said I personally favour switching pronouns frequently when talking about Slaanesh. Because Slaanesh is a lot more than just 'both' genders.

On topic: This thread ended when Zothos posted.

[Chem-Dog]

English doesn't have a gender pronoun for both, so using either is perfectly legal.

Legal maybe, but needlessly confusing to switch them midway through a sentence, I had to re-read it twice before the penny dropped.

I'm with Chem-dog on this

Again proof, if proof were needed, that Askil is an intellectual colossus.

Except "It" implies no gender, while Slaanesh encompases both. Slaanesh is not genderless.

That said I personally favour switching pronouns frequently when talking about Slaanesh.

Seriously, we all get that Slaanesh is the ultimate gender-bender entity, we really don't need a discussion of the correct (non existent) phraseology for accurately describing that (what are we, a bunch of geeks sitting around arguing over a fictional universe?!).
All I was asking for was a little in sentence continuity for the sake of ailing brain cells.

Because Slaanesh is a lot more than just 'both' genders.

And the rest....