Multiple units, challenges -> deadlock

[Singleton Mosby]

Yesterday I was fighting this great battle with my Brets against VC.

At one moment I had the unit of his general and 25 skellies cornered. He charged my grailknights, who survived, and I charged him in the flank on my turn with my general and a ten knights errant.
The unit of skeleton warriors was all but whiped out. Remaining where only his general, a hero and 2 men. Next round of combat he challenged me (to avoid losing him due to combat resolution), his other men died and there was just his general. I had no means to kill him but accepted the challenge turn after turn. He claimed neither of my units could move as they were in combat.

1. Is that true, weren't my units (apart from the general locked in the challenge) really in combat and not allowed to move? (I would have roled up his entire army)
2. Doesn't he suffer from the combat resolution his unit suffered from whilst being in a challenge?
3. What should I have done?

[bad dice]

Yesterday I was fighting this great battle with my Brets against VC.

At one moment I had the unit of his general and 25 skellies cornered. He charged my grailknights, who survived, and I charged him in the flank on my turn with my general and a ten knights errant.
The unit of skeleton warriors was all but whiped out. Remaining where only his general, a hero and 2 men. Next round of combat he challenged me (to avoid losing him due to combat resolution), his other men died and there was just his general. I had no means to kill him but accepted the challenge turn after turn. He claimed neither of my units could move as they were in combat.

1. Is that true, weren't my units (apart from the general locked in the challenge) really in combat and not allowed to move? (I would have roled up his entire army)
As long as they where all in base to base whit his genral THEN yes
2. Doesn't he suffer from the combat resolution his unit suffered from whilst being in a challenge?
OF course he does the fact that hes in a challenge does only change who can attack who. At least they still suffer it like one unit so if he losses by two his unit should lose two wounds.
3. What should I have done?

Hard tot tell whit out a complete picture but mostly go for the option that gives the most combat ress. But if I take you stroy into account it think you should have punched him in the Balls for cheating. Cause if the combat was going on for a few turns he should have died form combat ress since he did not kill your genral i assume you both did no wounds and you would have one by 2 ( banner flank)

[Singleton Mosby]

Cause if the combat was going on for a few turns he should have died form combat ress since he did not kill your genral i assume you both did no wounds and you would have one by 2 ( banner flank)

We where in a challenge. There's no combat resollution for models in a challenge is there?

[LiddellHart]

1) I guess both your units would be in contact with the VC, until the (once issued and then ongoing) challenge was resolved. You would then be locked "but that doesn't matter cause get a load of this":
2) He does suffer from CR (why not) and crumble into dust.
3) You should have looked up the challenge rules on pages 102 and 103 and notice that challenges are not exempt from combat resolution.

Edit: double ninja'd, points still stand.

[BattleofLund]

Sure there is combat resolution, same as for other combats.

[Singleton Mosby]

2) He does suffer from CR (why not) and crumble into dust.
3) You should have looked up the challenge rules on pages 102 and 103 and notice that challenges are not exempt from combat resolution.

Darn, I shouldn't have trusted a more experienced player.

[bad dice]

Darn, I shouldn't have trusted a more experienced player.

It's not a mater of trust if you are unsure see it as a change to learn the excact wording of a role and ask your opponent if he can show you the rule.
Cause well some ppl are scatterbrained for real.
And some ppl like to "forget" thing in the heat of the moment. Funny thing is it usually turns out that it was a advantage to "forget" about that rule

[Artiee]

Yesterday I was fighting this great battle with my Brets against VC.

At one moment I had the unit of his general and 25 skellies cornered. He charged my grailknights, who survived, and I charged him in the flank on my turn with my general and a ten knights errant.
The unit of skeleton warriors was all but whiped out. Remaining where only his general, a hero and 2 men. Next round of combat he challenged me (to avoid losing him due to combat resolution), his other men died and there was just his general. I had no means to kill him but accepted the challenge turn after turn. He claimed neither of my units could move as they were in combat.

He other men died. I see CR of 4 right there. plus you had 2 ranks I assume. 6CR total (I assume) Challenging would not save him. He would still take 6 crumble wounds on his general. If this was a non-undead unit, like OnG. He would have to take a break test of minus 6.

Btw. You only have to challenge once. Once in a challenge, the 2 would duke it out until one is dead or one of the units break and run.

[AntaresCD]

To make it clear, when there is a challenge the following applies:

-The challenge remains in effect round to round until one or the other dies or flees.
-The models in the challenge may only direct attacks at each other and not to outside the challenge.
-The models not in the challenge may not direct attacks at models in the challenge.
-CR is calculated like normal and there is in fact one additional source of CR only available in a challenge: Overkill. You get +1 CR per extra wound inflicted beyond what was needed to kill the opposing model (to a maximum of +5).

The challenge is basically a mini-combat within the large one. In your case, there was no one left outside the challenge on one side (which can happen). Normal combat rules still apply though.

So what should have happened in your case was, as had been said by the posters before me, normal CR calculation, which should have given you victory by a decent margin each round until the opposing character broke.

For your reference, the rules for challenges are on page 102 of the BRB.

[Cambion Daystar]

He other men died. I see CR of 4 right there. plus you had 2 ranks I assume. 6CR total (I assume) Challenging would not save him.

Unless he got almost maximum overkill (1 wound grail champ + 5 overkill).
Also, did some of those 4 leftover models died because of the combat result? That would mean even less crumble wounds.
I'm not saying it is impossible, but he could have survived.
We need every detail of that combat to be sure.

Nevermind, see that the vampire is fighting it out against your general. So yes, he would probably have died. Unless he healed himself with magic.

[Capt._Jaelinek]

Also check p61 No More Foes. If the non-challenging unit was no longer in base contact after everyone else in the VC unit died they can move normally thereafter.