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    Re: Red Fury and multiple wounds

    Quote Originally Posted by Askari View Post
    I don't think so no, but I'd still rather guarantee a hit in and have hit first and re-rolls the vast majority of the time, than just re-rolls all the time and the possibility of dying before you strike. There isn't all that much that negates ASF either... Bat Swarms, that Ogre Kingdoms monster, the Nightshroud. Anything else?
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    Re: Red Fury and multiple wounds

    Don't hold your breath, but I wouldn't be even slightly surprised if the new version of the Chill Wind spell removed ASF, or granted ASL, when the DE book gets redone.
    Don't quote me on that either.

    But yeah, not much out there that goes out of its way to kill ASF really.
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    Re: Red Fury and multiple wounds

    High elf standard of balance removes hatred and frenzy for any unit in base contact. That's the only thing I can think of

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    Re: Red Fury and multiple wounds

    Quote Originally Posted by woodster17 View Post
    High Elves.... :P
    High Elves don't cancel ASF, they just also have it. Infact they're an excellent reason to take Quickblood, so that even if they kill you, you can strike down 12 or so of them.
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    Re: Red Fury and multiple wounds

    Quote Originally Posted by Askari View Post
    High Elves don't cancel ASF, they just also have it. Infact they're an excellent reason to take Quickblood, so that even if they kill you, you can strike down 12 or so of them.
    Well by extension they do cancel ASF from an opponent because it reverts back to standard game rules when you face a HE unit in combat if you have the ASF rule. Speed of Asuryan may not actually say 'negates ASF' from opponents but in reality it does because of HE's generally high Initiative compared to everyone else.
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    Re: Red Fury and multiple wounds

    Quote Originally Posted by woodster17 View Post
    Well by extension they do cancel ASF from an opponent because it reverts back to standard game rules when you face a HE unit in combat if you have the ASF rule. Speed of Asuryan may not actually say 'negates ASF' from opponents but in reality it does because of HE's generally high Initiative compared to everyone else.
    Uh, no?
    The ASF rules are pretty explicit on what happens when both sides have it, and it's not what you just said.
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    Re: Red Fury and multiple wounds

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Rose View Post
    Uh, no?
    The ASF rules are pretty explicit on what happens when both sides have it, and it's not what you just said.
    Yeah got my rulebook open and I didn't explain that very well. My bad. Basically 'it's very difficult to strike first against HE's' was the jist of my point, written in a bad riddle there. Kudos on replying in a constructive manner though...
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    Re: Red Fury and multiple wounds

    Quote Originally Posted by Askari View Post
    I don't think so no, but I'd still rather guarantee a hit in and have hit first and re-rolls the vast majority of the time, than just re-rolls all the time and the possibility of dying before you strike. There isn't all that much that negates ASF either... Bat Swarms, that Ogre Kingdoms monster, the Nightshroud. Anything else?
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    Re: Red Fury and multiple wounds

    Quote Originally Posted by woodster17 View Post
    High Elves.... :P
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    High Elves...
    Are we repeating the same argument? High Elves do not negate ASF!
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    Re: Red Fury and multiple wounds

    Quote Originally Posted by Askari View Post
    Are we repeating the same argument? High Elves do not negate ASF!
    Sorry - didn't notice the second page.

    In terms of ASF, High Elves don't exactly cancel it, but they certainly cancel the rerolls (going back to the Hatred vs ASF argument).
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    Strigoi vampire w/ red fury, quick blood, and the Sword of Bloodshed ftw.

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    Re: Red Fury and multiple wounds

    Quote Originally Posted by GodlessM View Post
    Am I missing something here? Is Konrad with the Dawnstar Sword not a Vampire with Red Fury and the Dawnstar Sword?
    If he has a magic weapon, he can't take the dawnstar sword. (Not a VC player so I don't know if he does have a magic weapon.)
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    Re: Red Fury and multiple wounds

    Quote Originally Posted by sulla View Post
    If he has a magic weapon, he can't take the dawnstar sword. (Not a VC player so I don't know if he does have a magic weapon.)
    He does. And your right.......Can't change his equipment.....

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