Finecasts in June

[theJ]

I'll be happy about the finecasting. There are many models that work well in metal, but I always hesitate about buying them, since there's always the chance it'll be damn near impossible to assemble, cannot stand straight, and I always have to carry my glue with me to put it back together every time it falls apart.

Finecast makes misses from time to time, but at least I can rely on the models being easy to work with.
The prices are kinda suspicious though... do we actually know the numbers of models involved? It strikes me as suspiciously sensible they'd repack the witches and executioners into packs o' 10, rather than 5, to get them in line with the plastic kits, in which case the prices would make a lot more sense... dito on the other crazy price changes.

[Melkanador]

The "new" boxes will contain 5 miniatures.

PS
Finecast miniatures are quite hard to repair as they break everywhere not only the glue points.

[Lord Dan]

I'll be happy about the finecasting.

$41.50 for 5 man-sized models? That's $166 for a single 20-man unit of Black Guard. Just a couple years back, when the exact same models were boxed in groups of 10 for $40 (remember how "expensive" we used to think those were?) it would have cost $80 for a unit of 20. Now my math isn't exactly spectacular, however if my calculations are right that's over a 100% increase in price in just a few years.

Sorry friend, you're alone in your happiness on this one.

[agent032125]

Thanks to finecast, I own 10 models at the cost of 5. Literally every one of the five I've purchased had bubble issues significant enough for me to have GW send out a replacement. I can handle having a few extra flawed models, but I don't know how they can afford to keep paying for those f*%k-ups. Free shipping too!

Seriously, why don't they just go to all plastic? Their plastics are just fine IMO.

[Morkash]

$41.50 for 5 man-sized models? That's $166 for a single 20-man unit of Black Guard. Just a couple years back, when the exact same models were boxed in groups of 10 for $40 (remember how "expensive" we used to think those were?) it would have cost $80 for a unit of 20. Now my math isn't exactly spectacular, however if my calculations are right that's over a 100% increase in price in just a few years.

Sorry friend, you're alone in your happiness on this one.

Reminds me of the Teutogen Guard. They were 29,95€ during their release, for 10 metal figures. Back then I thought "No way I will pay that price for them!!" ... and now sad Morkash weeps at the eBay vampires charging 100€ for a box.

@Why isn't everything plastic? The plastic molds are much more expensive and made from solid metal. Converting metals to Finecast is much faster and cheaper, because you can use the old masters (not sure how this works with plastics, I'm no engineer or something similar) and are able to use (AFAIK) rubber or silicone moulds, which are much cheaper and faster to produce.

[theJ]

$41.50 for 5 man-sized models? That's $166 for a single 20-man unit of Black Guard. Just a couple years back, when the exact same models were boxed in groups of 10 for $40 (remember how "expensive" we used to think those were?) it would have cost $80 for a unit of 20. Now my math isn't exactly spectacular, however if my calculations are right that's over a 100% increase in price in just a few years.

Sorry friend, you're alone in your happiness on this one.

Read my whole post next time.
I said I liked finecast as a material(not as much as plastic, mind you, but definitly more than metal), but also said that the prices were suspicious, while also giving a possible(and reasonable) explanation - that they'd go back to the 10-girl boxes you speak of.

[Demiurg]

I have some, Those Figures are some of the best I have ever seen.

[Omnichron]

I don't mind finecast either compared to metal, however the prices of GW are getting seriously high. Especially if Lord Dan is right about it being 5 man boxes and at that price.

Personally I don't care that much about the prices of GW getting higher, because it'll just end up with me buying miniatures from others. Both Raging Heroes and Avatars of War are getting very good miniatures by now, and their ranges of miniatures are increasing. My newly begun daemons army don't have a single GW miniature in it yet.

[EpicWarGamer]

I see a lot of price dropping on old metal models, but I think that is a bad idea. Some people are still enjoying the metal models...

Regardless, I am excited as hell about the release of Lizardmen models...

[Daigar]

but I don't know how they can afford to keep paying for those f*%k-ups. Free shipping too!

Now WHY do you think Finecast is so expensive?

[loveless]

It strikes me as suspiciously sensible they'd repack the witches and executioners into packs o' 10, rather than 5, to get them in line with the plastic kits, in which case the prices would make a lot more sense... dito on the other crazy price changes.

Hope dies last.

[En Sabbah Nur]

The "new" boxes will contain 5 miniatures.

Are you serious on this ?!? I was thinking it would be at least 10 minis for such a price ! I would have understood if they've made like the TK Tomb Guards...

Hard times for DE players. Sorry men.

[Polaria]

Thanks to finecast, I own 10 models at the cost of 5. Literally every one of the five I've purchased had bubble issues significant enough for me to have GW send out a replacement. I can handle having a few extra flawed models, but I don't know how they can afford to keep paying for those f*%k-ups. Free shipping too!

Seriously, why don't they just go to all plastic? Their plastics are just fine IMO.

I think in many cases finecast is just a stopgap solution. I am pretty sure they intend to go plastic on many models that are now finecasted, like, for example, Witch Elves and Executioners. However, as the logistics involved in production of plastic modelds are much more expensive and complicated than just taking an old white-metal mold and pouring some finecast resin into it we have to wait for the plastics a little longer.

[TsukeFox]

They are probably melting down & recyling-using it as filler to finecash soup-their ugly metal models that have been sitting in stock warehouses for the last decade.

[Lord Dan]

Read my whole post next time.
I said I liked finecast as a material(not as much as plastic, mind you, but definitly more than metal), but also said that the prices were suspicious, while also giving a possible(and reasonable) explanation - that they'd go back to the 10-girl boxes you speak of.

I read your whole post, and I responded to the relevant portion.

If you want me to respond to the whole post, I'll go on to say that we know for sure they are only 5-man boxes. The prices are far more than "suspicious", they're outrageous. Any possible gain made in the utility of the material over metal is completely lost by how much it costs to purchase them.

So I say again, if you're happy about that, you're alone.

[Petey]

I think in many cases finecast is just a stopgap solution. I am pretty sure they intend to go plastic on many models that are now finecasted, like, for example, Witch Elves and Executioners. However, as the logistics involved in production of plastic modelds are much more expensive and complicated than just taking an old white-metal mold and pouring some finecast resin into it we have to wait for the plastics a little longer.

Not according to their 2011 report to shareholders. The implications in that document imply that we'll have failcast for quite some time, and as a good part of their range. However, I think they will also be investing in plastics more heavily in the future as well... only time will tell.

[Late]

Are you serious on this ?!? I was thinking it would be at least 10 minis for such a price ! I would have understood if they've made like the TK Tomb Guards...

Hard times for DE players. Sorry men.

Yeah, I just started my DE army and I've been hitting eBay and forums for my Black Guard and Executioners.

[Infern0]

Screw this, i`m getting 25 executioners and command for them this week...

[Ebon]

We have new Witch Elf models already, and they are quite good.:

http://www.ragingheroes.com/collecti.../blood-vestals

GW is NOT the only game in town. In fact, at least in this case, they aren't even the best, at least IMO.

Tuatha

Thanks for linking that, those are really nice. Their "preying mantis"'s will make really good deamonettes as well.

I think in many cases finecast is just a stopgap solution. I am pretty sure they intend to go plastic on many models that are now finecasted, like, for example, Witch Elves and Executioners. However, as the logistics involved in production of plastic modelds are much more expensive and complicated than just taking an old white-metal mold and pouring some finecast resin into it we have to wait for the plastics a little longer.

I'm not seeing it personally. I think we'll be stuck with Failcash for a while yet. Doubtless, any move to plastic will be accompanied by another wallet-destroying price rise too.

[gogs78]

I dont usually get involved with complaining about price rises etc and i only own one finecast model so my opinion probably means jack.

But just had to say that a 67% price increase is a complete and utter disgrace. What the hell are GW on?

Ive been dedicated to this hobby for years but this nonsense is seriously making me think about downing tools.

Extremely pissed off after reading this thread. That is all.