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    Re: GW goes digital

    REALLY excited by this!!

    With 40k 6th supposedly right around the corner, I can only hope it, and other armybooks/Codices get a digital release as they come out. Though it isn't much right now (we really need some sort of official army builder program more than anything), it certainly is a start, and pretty much sold me on getting an ipad.

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Quote Originally Posted by gunmnky View Post
    2 reasons.

    1) Apple has an iron grip on the kind of invasive DRM that GW gets off on.
    2) The Apple crowed is willing to pay 200% more for the same thing with an Apple logo on it, where Android users see the value in a dollar.
    Also not worth working on multiple platforms without testing the market.

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Dimetrius View Post
    Nah, just a pathological complainer

    Listen, I get it, it sucks that it's not more widely available. But in the real world resources are finite and choices need to be made. GW chose, for once, to be right there with a new format as it starting to take hold. They conciously chose the interactive ebook format, which can be conviently created and deployed but pre-existing software, in thus case iBooks.

    Or would you rather they would have done absolutely nothing, or postponed something like this till they had designed, coded and marketed their own content delivery system?
    Actually, the resources to publish both on android and apple devices is negligible if you know what you're doing.
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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Dimetrius View Post
    Or would you rather they would have done absolutely nothing, or postponed something like this till they had designed, coded and marketed their own content delivery system?
    You ask that question as though those are the only two options available, which is self-evidently untrue.

    In any case, it's immaterial in the end, because at £25 a book I'm not interested anyway. I would have been, at £15, in a format I can use; but the target market for this clearly isn't me, so that's that.

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Quote Originally Posted by gunmnky View Post
    The Apple crowed is willing to pay 200% more for the same thing with an Apple logo on it, where Android users see the value in a dollar.
    Not to mention that that crowd is always condescending towards others! Oh...

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Quote Originally Posted by gunmnky View Post
    2 reasons.

    1) Apple has an iron grip on the kind of invasive DRM that GW gets off on.
    2) The Apple crowed is willing to pay 200% more for the same thing with an Apple logo on it, where Android users see the value in a dollar.
    The vitriol (usually utterly incorrect) that gets spouted by android fanboys whenever Apple are mentioned is pretty funny.

    Looking forward to having a look at the new digital version. Seems pretty well done. Hopefully all codices and rule books will be available in this format from now on.

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Quote Originally Posted by SunTzu View Post
    You ask that question as though those are the only two options available, which is self-evidently untrue.
    Logically obviously, but from a business standpoint it's a very real choice for a company that does not have an extensive IT branch. You seem confused about this.

    Besides, you're not interested anyway, so why complain about it?

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Dimetrius View Post
    Logically obviously, but from a business standpoint it's a very real choice for a company that does not have an extensive IT branch. You seem confused about this.
    Not confused at all, actually, being someone who creates computer software for a living; and the choice you presented is utterly false. But thanks for the condescension.

    Besides, you're not interested anyway, so why complain about it?
    I was interested, until I saw the price (something which GW have specifically avoided mentioning, funnily enough). By that time I'd already become involved in the discussion. Though admittedly discussions are more fun when the other party isn't just constantly trying to score points. You can't "win" forum threads, you know.

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Quote Originally Posted by SunTzu View Post
    Not confused at all, actually, being someone who creates computer software for a living; and the choice you presented is utterly false. But thanks for the condescension
    Very well, indulge me. From your extensive expertise, how would you have handled it?

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Nothing really to complain about.

    If you use iOS you now have the choice of formats. If you don't, well you can buy the paper book like you always have.

    I would guess at an expansion of digital distribution if the sales hold up and customer feedback is positive.

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Could someone who has managed to find the codex in iBooks please post a direct link to it? (assume someone has, since they knew pricing)

    It's not showing up in search for me yet.

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    The potential is excellent. Despite being a little more costly I think the direction is good. Especially if they can keep them updated with erratas, FAQs and additional new units (like the Storm Talon).
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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Dimetrius View Post
    Logically obviously, but from a business standpoint it's a very real choice for a company that does not have an extensive IT branch. You seem confused about this.

    Besides, you're not interested anyway, so why complain about it?
    An extensive IT branch? Hardly. You don't need that to make e-books. Most of the skillsets for this task would already exist in their graphic design team. The rest could be easily handled by a small group or farmed out.

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    I like the idea, mostly I'm not sure about the cost. One of the big selling points of ebooks is that they are usually CHEAPER than the paper equivelent and that's possible because of the reduced production and distribution costs. Having a 25% bump in price seriously puts me off.

    Although, this could be a big deal, if they are going to digitise their rule books and provide clarifications, faqs and updates all in one package, then I would pay. £25 for a licence to all updates, releases and faqs in one convenient package for your army's life in one game edition does seem ok. But only if GW makes the most of it.

    It could even help them balance on the fly, but that is probably too much to hope for!

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Quote Originally Posted by SunTzu View Post
    iPad only = very, very, very, very bad. What, does nobody at GW realise people might have an Android tablet... or a laptop?
    It kind of looks like it was done with iBooks Author with all the interactive stuff, and the TOS for the application basically forces you to sell the books you create in it in the iBooks store (I think you can give them away for free anywhere, but that is not GW's MO). Also, if that's the case, the file format is a non-standard extension of Epub and I'm not sure there is any compatible software on Android.

    It is kind of ridiculous that Apple doesn't support the format even on Mac OS X though.

    All in all, I think it looks pretty nice. The large pictures are probably my favourite part, but I'm afraid that the interface would get annoying fast.

    And the price is a bit steep, although I hope they will release "WD only" stuff like this in the future.
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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Puritan View Post
    An extensive IT branch? Hardly. You don't need that to make e-books.
    Oh I agree, don't get me wrong. I can make e-books here myself. It's just that they seem to be going the interactive route, which is a bit more involved. From that standpoint it's sensible to use existing infrastructure and programs. At least that's the impression I got from the product description, if it's just a glorified pdf/epub it's indeed rather silly.

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    Re: GW goes digital

    Wait, 24 pounds 99 for a digital copy of the book? They want the same amount of money for a PDF of the book as they do for the hard copy? Do they realize most publishers offer a digital copy for a significantly reduced price from the original, if not for free alongside a purchase of the hard copy?

    Leave it to GW to take a fantastic idea and destroy it with ignorant pricing policies.
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    That's because GW believes hardcovers should cost more even when they are digital.

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    Re: Digital codexes are here

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilgrimski View Post
    I like the idea, mostly I'm not sure about the cost. One of the big selling points of ebooks is that they are usually CHEAPER than the paper equivelent and that's possible because of the reduced production and distribution costs. Having a 25% bump in price seriously puts me off.

    Although, this could be a big deal, if they are going to digitise their rule books and provide clarifications, faqs and updates all in one package, then I would pay. £25 for a licence to all updates, releases and faqs in one convenient package for your army's life in one game edition does seem ok. But only if GW makes the most of it.

    It could even help them balance on the fly, but that is probably too much to hope for!
    I agree. It seems that the SM Codex is 'expanded'. From what little I've seen that looks like painting guides (read adverts for paints!).

    Having a constantly updated ruleset would be great. However, just from reading this thread, it would seem only a small percentage of users would 'be up to date'.

    Interestingly timed with the imminent release of the 6th Ed though.

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    Re: GW goes digital

    Indeed. When it comes to the online world, GW doesn't seem to grasp basic concepts like pricing. Unfortunately.

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