None of which changes the fact that refusing hs request is heresy or that he has full authority to seize anything he wants virtually without exception.
Politically expedient actions are definately the wisest choice for a long and happy life, but an Inquisitor can ride roughshod over anyone who says no if he's not too squemish to.
Originally Posted by Spider-pope
simply yes, look at the inquisitor model from FW (rex is it???)
Not entirely. If an inquisitor turned up at Fenris and demanded that Logan Grimnar hand over a suit of Terminator armor, then I think we can confidently say that he'd be ignored... if he was lucky. The reputation of the Space Wolves coupled with the brazenly crass demand of the inquisitor would protect the Space Wolves from the greedy inquisitor in question. A more appropriate demand, along the lines of "Help me destroy this group of traitors," would probably get a prompt response (assuming that the appropriate kinds of support were available). But even inquisitors have limits, and need to know where they are.
Terminator suits are rare enough (the vast majority of troops outside of the Space Marine chapters will probably never see one) that anyone who owns one is probably in a fairly secure position politically. Otherwise someone else would have "requisitioned" the suit. So an inquisitor would need to be very careful about how he or she went about acquiring some armor that had caught their eye.
If people must instist on using space marines as an example they should recall that the Astartes are independant from the chain of Imperial command, they answer requests from the Imperial hierarchy but they don't take orders from them.
As such an Inquisitor's request is likely to be listened to but he's in no position to demand anything.
Also the Admech don't consider themselves part of the Imperium as much as an allied power. Despite being made formally part of the Imperium with the post-heresy creation of Adeptus Terra.
However an Inquisitor's request is important because of the political pressure he can put on them quite aside from the fuedal obligations.
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And that same political pressure is the weakness of the inquisitor's request. Political pressure requires the support of other people. And other people tend to get somewhat annoyed if you ask for their help in order to support what's basically a moment of pure greed (which is what taking someone else's terminator armor would amount to). That's not to say that they won't help. But either they already owe you some extremely big favors, or you'll owe them for something massive in the future. Further, you ignored my other point - no one in the Imperium is going to own a set of working terminator armor unless they have massive political support of their own, quite possibly enough to counterbalance the inquisitor's own political pressure. The working suits are just too rare for someone to own unless they've got a pretty strong network of their own to keep some random important political person from coming along and taking it. Inquisitors aren't the only ones who can take things more or less just because they want it, and working terminator armor is going to be pretty high up on the scale of things that powerful people are very interested in.
You're not going to find a working suit in the armor shop on the corner. And if you do, then it's probably a trap by the Chaos powers...
As for bringing up Space Marines... given that nearly all of the working suits in the galaxy are in the possession of the space marine chapters, I'm not sure what the problem is with mentioning them... It's unusual enough to see a marine wearing the one of them. Running into a non-marine wearing it is something that only a handful of individuals will experience (most of whom won't survive the experience... /innocent whistle )
I'm guessing Admech can make more.
Also I sincarely doubt everyone has 'getting terminator armour' as a priority, most inquisitors have better methods than that when it comes to force and most nobles avoid combat anyway.
Last edited by stormblade; 20-06-2012 at 11:29.
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Inquisitors can't afford to be squeamish, but even more so they have to be intelligent, mentally stable and marginally able to work with people. And the IoM is a feudal system where the Inquisitor's right to demand things is for serving the Empire, not himself - demanding random stuff just because one can isn't going to look good. An Inquisitor could in theory demand a naval battlegroup transport him to his Amasec stash in the next sector, but the results would probably be less than good for him in the end. In all his actions he must still keep the good of the Empire first in mind, and taking something he doesn't need from someone who is using it for the Empire is not good for the Empire.
There's not many situations that actually require Terminator Armor (Space Hulks, extreme environments beyond standard Power Armor survivability etc) but when there is one an Inquisitor can - quite reasonably - ask to borrow a modified suit or even have one made.
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It's odd, Spetulthu arguing aginst my post to come to the conclusion I am right.
I'm not saying (like some seem to think) an Inquisitor can afford to get on people's nerves. I'm simply saying it is within an Inquisitor's rights to request and resonably expect to recieve anything the Imperium can provide.
Also why are people so hung up on Terminator armour belonging to SM? Sure they are the guys who field it in force but it all comes fromthe AdMech. Also I'm damn sure armour with a direct neurological interface designed for a giant superhuman isn't going to be much use for a (presumably largely unmodified) human who lacks said interfacing capability. So we're back to those suits specially made for humans that use MIUs or some other means of interface to mimic the user's movements.
As such any terminator armour likely to be of any use to an Inquisitor is either a one of a kind curiosity piece of some well connected citizen/military leader or a suit placed at the disposal of the Inquisition.
Last edited by Askil the Undecided; 20-06-2012 at 20:50.
Nah, I'm expanding on it to make the same point clearer. Your quote was just the best place to start is all. ;-)
While Inquisitors can demand anything they're not best served by doing so. They need to know when to demand things, from whom and preferably with a great big good reason as to why.
After a careful evaluation of the situation Warlord Throkk decided to use his favorite tactic of Frontal Assault.
Bah, those vulgarians couldn't possibly understand the WHY of it nor bear the impossible soul- tearing truths that would come with the answear. Better that they do as they're told or suffer the most terrible of consuqencies.
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