[35] pDeneghra Cryx list - C&C welcome

[Lucifer216]

Hi all,


I'm considering the following 35pt list:

Warcaster
Warwitch Deneghra

Warjacks
Death Jack
Nightmare
Stalker

Units
1 unit of 6 Bane Knights

Solos
Bane Lord Tartarus
Machine Wraith
Pistol Wraith

I really love Deneghra's feat (makes the enemy rubbish for a turn) and she meshes well with the whole ghostly theme I've got going. Hopefully the prospect of a ghostly Deathjack and Nightmare will give my opponents the willies, causing the incredibly deadly Bane Knights to get in relatively unscathed. Hopefully, it should give people a similar dilemma to the one we used to have while fighting Alex's old World Eater list. Oh and hopefully they won't see the Stalker coming (it's a light warjack designed for caster assassination). The Machine Wraith and Pistol Wraiths are there to run interference and with luck might be able to thwart cunning plans. One weak spot is the lack of Arc Nodes. If this proves to be too much of a problem, I'll probably rotate out the Machine Wraith and Pistol Wraith for a Helljack of some description.

Thoughts?

[Aetios]

I would actually just say rotate out the Stalker for an arc node. TBH, I don't think you need the machine wraith either. Personally I find them way too situational, but some people love them. I would say drop the Machine Wraith and put a defiler in for the stalker. With all of Denny's debuffs, the defiler's spray will really help go a long way towards enemy troop control. Cast through the arc node to drop their DEF, then move up and spray. With a good angle and some lucky enemy clumping, you'll kill 4-6 troops.

Being that your minimum unit of Bane Knights is your only troop unit, you are definitely going to need to utilize your terrain as much as possible. ARM 16 is great, but with only a DEF 12 they'll get hit left and right. Forests and walls will need to be your best friends.

[Morkian]

For minor changes I would definitely add an arcnode I would suggest 2 to the list. She makes good use of them and she is really too squishy to get too far up the field. To get them in I would suggest taking out the Stalker and Bane Lord Tartarus. I don't think 6 Bane Knights really justify the 4 points you spend on him in that particular list.

If I was going really major I would drop Deathjack and Nightmare and replace with some form of infantry of your choosing probably Bane Knights or Thralls and Mechanithralls. Adding Banes also means you get more use out of Tartarus. I would also suggest a Skarlock Thrall as he can alleviate the focus problems pDenny tends to have by casting Ghost Walk for her.

The reasoning for this is pretty simple, anything hits like a truck in a pDeneghra list with the debuffs she can do. With parasite on the target and under her feat a Mechanithrall combo strikes at effective pow 20 and you can get 20 for the cost of Nightmare. Bane thralls are effective pow 18 weapon masters (11 base +3 parasite, +2 feat +2 Dark shroud). In doing this your opponent doesn't have a good target to focus on as everything can do serious damage. The other issue is by taking away Jacks you're lowering the focus needs off pDenny which is really good as you want her focus to abuse her devestating spell list which is really where her strength lies.

[Spirit]

I would say thats the wrong way to go about a list with denegrah. Too many jacks. And having to get within 8" to cast any of her spells is a killer.

If i was to use your list, i would run mortenebra, nightmare is an utter beast with her. And even the stalker canthreaten something like 18"

If you want to run seriously jack heavy, i would say mortenebra, even if you dont run her teir list.

[Borgnine]

Too many jacks, not enough infantry, no skarlock and no arc nodes make this a poor list.