Questions about Rune Priests psyker abilities

[Bortus]

Ok I have a few questions concerning Rune Priests and their Psyker powers.

1. When making a psyker attack you have to make a leadership test. Does this mean that if a Rune Priest has the "Master of Runes" that he must take two leadership tests, one for each psyker attack?

2. While making an attack with a "Force Weapon" you must make a leadership test so since the Rune Priest has more than one attack must he take leadership tests for each attack or is it used only once per assault phase?

3. The second part of the "Chooser of the Slain" rule says that "Should the Rune Priest make a shooting attack at a target that has line of sight to the chooser marker..." does this mean that the enemy model must have line of sight to the marker?

4. The rules for "Jaws of the World Wolf" says "as a shooting attack" so does this mean that even with "Master of Runes" I could not also use "Living Lightning" since you still can only make one shooting attack?

Thank you all for your help and patience.

[Bortus]

Oh one more question if I may. If a Rune Priest is in a unit of Grey Hunters that has a "Wolf Standard" which once per game allows re-rolls of ones during an assault phase does this mean that I may re-roll a double one roll result during a psyker test?

[Nurgling Chieftain]

1. Yes. Of course, if you only use one power, you won't have to test twice, and indeed you could always choose to not use any powers at all. Many people bring these guys for psychic defense.

2. The Force Weapon can only be used once per assault phase (and counts as a use of a psychic power). Note, however, that it's used on a wounded model, not on each attack. So, if you make 3 attacks and get 1 wound, you can cause instant death from that one wound with one test.

3. Hmm. I guess so, although it seems to me that the vice versa would make a lot more sense.

4. Correct, only one shooting attack per shooting phase.

5. I'm pretty sure that's technically a roll of a two, rather than two rolls of a one. Let me see if I can find a reference for that, though. EDIT: Found it. Space Wolf FAQ, page 4, right column, last entry.

[Bortus]

I appreciate the info Nurgling. Thanks.

[Bortus]

Oh you know what then, speaking of my third question should we say that as long as the marker is within the Rune Priests line of sight it could be anywhere on the board even behind him?

[TheGreatDalmuti]

Infantry have 360 degrees line of sight anyway, so there is technically no "behind".

[Bortus]

Ya I know Dalmuti but you know what I mean. We're talking marker placement here. Just want to get it right bro.

[PRoeske]

@Dalmuti,
Technically that's not true according to page 16:
"Line of Sight literally represnets your warriors' view of the enemy - they muist be able to see their foe through, under or over the tangle of terrain and other fighters on the battlefield. [...] Line of Sight must be traced from the eyes of the firing model to any part of the body of at least one of the models in the target unit [...]"

Page 11 makes this a bit easier for gaming purposes by clarifiing:
"Turning and Facing - [...] Infantry models can also be turned to face their targets in the Shooting phase [...]"

Combining above mentioned, if I place all of my models in a unit so that they are not looking at a Chooser of the Slain, my opponent cannot use the +1BS, as turning them to trace LoS is optional.

Same for walkers, as you can have them look away from the chooser (not necessarily exposing their backs to the Runepriest), he cannot benefit from the Chooser of the Slain.

Gt. Pim

[Bortus]

So then PRoeske your saying that the enemy model must have a line of sight to the marker?

[ehlijen]

@Dalmuti,
Technically that's not true according to page 16:
"Line of Sight literally represnets your warriors' view of the enemy - they muist be able to see their foe through, under or over the tangle of terrain and other fighters on the battlefield. [...] Line of Sight must be traced from the eyes of the firing model to any part of the body of at least one of the models in the target unit [...]"

Page 11 makes this a bit easier for gaming purposes by clarifiing:
"Turning and Facing - [...] Infantry models can also be turned to face their targets in the Shooting phase [...]"

Combining above mentioned, if I place all of my models in a unit so that they are not looking at a Chooser of the Slain, my opponent cannot use the +1BS, as turning them to trace LoS is optional.

Same for walkers, as you can have them look away from the chooser (not necessarily exposing their backs to the Runepriest), he cannot benefit from the Chooser of the Slain.

Gt. Pim

The crucial part missing from your quotes is where the opponent is not allowed to turn your models to face his chooser. Ie just because you turned them away doesn't mean he doesn't get to turn them back.

[Spetulhu]

The crucial part missing from your quotes is where the opponent is not allowed to turn your models to face his chooser. Ie just because you turned them away doesn't mean he doesn't get to turn them back.

You don't touch the opponent's models without permission.

[TheGreatDalmuti]

@Proesce
Technically since models from the same unit do not block LoS, the head of the model in question does not block LoS, so every infantry model can see through it's head for a 360 degree LoS. Technically...

When the book says not to worry which way infantry models are facing, on page 11 that is, it means not to worry.

[PRoeske]

@Bortus, that's exactly what the rules fore the Chooser of the Slain state.

@TheGreatDalmuthi,
The rulebook specifically states you do worry about how models face, it only gives you permission to change facings.

However, i never enforced this on infantry. Mainly when targetting Dreadnoughts it can become very relevant.

Anyway, with 6th edition around the corner, who really cares :-).

Pim